[The Great Migration]
Interview Date: 11th. May. 2006
Conducted By: Dark 7 Invader
Special thanks to Bronze Nazareth, and Greg
Fraction from Babygrande records for the interview.
walks a city of bullet riddled minds, with havoc escaping the
mouths of brutal racists, stray dogs meeting more glorious words
than him. Every other turn was a drug spot, every corner shop
resembled the familiar face of a B&E party store, every love
became a tragedy, and many of life's expectations were not
suited for him. Nights he wandered through old Martin Luther
King Jr. park ignoring warnings of the danger that would meet
him there. It's here that he would contemplate the trials of
These city streets remained torn and potholed as he grew. This
was a location where the poor become poorer, and even the middle
class is wrenched into the downward funnel of misfortune. His
was an existence where welfare cheese was plentiful, free lunch
was magnificent, and friends were friends. Situated herein, a
tight knit family strives to survive in the midst of animation.
Manifested in that very inner city house were sounds of joy,
happiness, arguments, pain, and fighting. It is in this exact
environment, that a young man begins to write scriptures. These
writings became the escape from the cement seas of pain and
anguish that would confront the man made from Bronze.
A cast of pure hearted men ran with him, aiming to maintain a
righteous path along their travels. Each individual brought a
new sense of thought and knowledge into each other's lives. From
this wisdom Bronze prospered, and a mounting aspiration began to
mold itself in the form of sound. As life moved on, this noble
man became part of the city, and part of the grief that has
drizzled onto the souls of man. Through his fingers, hip hop
music became the map by which he would navigate his existence.
Utensils such as keyboards, notepads, pens, pencils, computers,
and mics became the medium through which he spoke.
Out of the structures of life, lessons, experience, and
understanding comes Bronze Nazareth, a student in the school of
Bronze Nazarethís debut album, The Great Migration, hits the streets May
23rd, 2006 on Think Differently/Babygrande Records,
Wu-International quickly catches up with the man
himself as he spits darts about his forthcoming
album, himself and more.
After reading the interview
you will realize that Bronze is not just a sharp
lyricist and super producer but also a deep thinker
thinking differently on The Great Migration, so let
the exodus beginÖ
I like to say thanks first and foremost for taking
the time to answer these questions, and will also
point out that nothing will be altered, edited or
changed when this is published online
Whatís good? you are a hard man to catch as I have
been sending you messages for an interview for ages,
so I really appreciate you taking the time out to
answer these questions, sorry it is quite lengthy
but I have been meaning to ask you more than this
for a long time, so to kick off, I'd say peace and
how are you?
Iím good man thanks for reaching out.
have read about you online but still going to ask
some quick questions just to introduce you to
everyone, Please tell us where you are from and
Iím from Grand Rapids, MI/Detroit,
MI. Born and raised in Grand Rapids, been in Detroit
for some years now.
Why have you chosen
to call yourself Bronze Nazareth and what does it
stand for if any?
really a reference to the 18 Bronzemen Movie, which
is my favorite kung fu joint. I feel like I been
thru so much I got tough skin like I been thru the
Halls and fought the 18 Bronzemen. And then Nazareth
a city of great history and wisdom was settled in
the Bronze age, as well as it's link to Jesus and
you go by any other names/aliases we should know of?
man, too many people with Alias's now. I mean I got
aliases from my people or from around the way but,
nah man, as an artist just remember one name for me.
were you first exposed to hip-hop?
Mid 80's, probably '85 I had "Fat
Boys Are Back.Ē
are equally an MC as well as a producer, what did you
start off as initially (beat or rhymes)?
Rhymes. I started making beats to have something of
my own to rhyme over.
Everyone sees you as producer, would you consider
yourself more of a producer than an emcee or
guess I feel like more of an MC because to me,
producing, whether sampling or creating everything
is there already, the notes are there you just have
to get a nice arrangement. When rhyming, the page is
blank and it's from scratch, and the whole skeleton
is built from the mind.
long have you been making beats?
Since about '94
What type of producer
are you? How would you describe your style?
would say my style is like feelings...all my joints
have a lot of emotion, whether itís grimy or
something beautifully sad, or some feel good shit, a
lot of feeling.
There has been criticism in the past of your
productions being too samey and formulaic, although
I think for many that is the beauty and appeal in
knowing instantly that youíre the producer behind
the track. And it certainly hasnít stopped the
legions of rappers desperate to add some underground
kudos to their albums calling you up. What would be
your response to this assessment of your style?
response is that there's not a whole lot of my music
out there yet, and truthfully if you were to sit and
listen to a disc of my beats, you'd hear a more
diverse collection than it appears to the public
would you define the role of a producer?
producer has many roles, not just beat making, a
producer has to be able to put the correct elements
into the right places of a song.
long does it take to make a track?
can be ten minutes, or it can be days. Depending on
what you're working with.
you remember your first beat?
I still have it, It wasn't that bad, just real
What's your objective when creating tracks?
Simply to make good music.
kind of equipment did you select for your studio and
beats I started with an ASR-10 and also mess with
some computer joints like Reason, Audition and of
course pro tools when recording/mixing.
you ever made a track for someone and they turned
it down, only to have another emcee scoop it up?
yeah it happens,
artists can surprise you by the joints that they
choose. Itís never what you expect.
Apart for being credited as the one bringing back
that old classic Wu-Tang sound, what would you say
sets you apart from other hip hop producers?
thing I do is make music from my heart that I feel,
I'm not trying to outshine anyone, Iím not worrying
about who's doing what style, or whatís hot at the
moment, Iím just being genuine, and making music I
Hats off on the great work you did on ďWu-Tang Meets
The Indie CultureĒ your contribution in addition to
the gifted talents on there has made that album a
classic, do you approach a track differently if its
for a Wu or a non Wu members or does it not matter?
Nah not really
I donít make tracks specifically for people, I just
make the music, I might have something Iíll set
aside for someone though. If I have a joint that
sounds like Ghost I'll set it aside and try to get
it to him.
Are there any advantages or significance of being an
emcee as well as a producer?
I think maybe
you feel the connection between the beat and the
rhymes more so.
I remember listening to The Unknown album, and
thinking Wow.. Great!!, but that was just the
beginning as it seems you have gotten better and
better with time, How has your sound developed or
progressed since you started producing?
it's grown more complex. Always at the beginning of
anything, whether its beats, rhymes, free throws,
you're with the basics early on. Then while
learning, over time you become more developed and
complex. So at this point I feel I have more
dimensions than early on.
Everyone is influenced one way or another, who are
some of your influences, and how have you adapted
any of their styles into your own?
Daddy Kane, Geto Boys, Rakim, Ice Cube, Rza, 4th
Disciple, NWA, Gangstarr, BDP, and beyond
hip-hopÖGil Scott Heron, Curtis, Donnie Hathaway,
Stevie, Teddy Pendergrass, etc etc. Artists who had
genuine music with feeling.
If you had to name 3 top producers off your head
besides yourself, who would they be?
Rza, 4th Disciple, Just Blaze/DJ
did you meet The RZA and got initiated into the
I Met Rza in 36 Chambers with the
help of Cilvaringz. Rza gave me some time to show
him some material, and asked me to join Wu Elements
and from there it was on.
blessed ďBirth of a PrinceĒ album by RZA with a
number of solid tracks, what was it like working
with The Abbott (RZA)?
was real laid back. I enjoyed seeing the Abbot at
work. Iím a studio rat myself so all I did was sit
in the studio and it was great to observe an icon.
have produced for numerous artists, within the Wu
and outside, Are they any artists you have not
worked with Wu-tang or not that you would like to
Iím still waiting to get joints wit a lot of Wu like
Ghostface, Deck, Rae, U God, Meth. I want to do a
joint with as many fam as I can. As far as outside
Wu? I like cats like G. Rap,
Saigon, Ras, Nas,
Jay, Mos Def, etc etc. but I'd like to do some out
the box type shit. For example I'd love do a whole
album with Ice Cube and take it back to his
street/political, Death Certificate sound. Or I'd
like to do something like a whole album for Mos Def,
or a Soul album with Tweet or something over crazy
beats. I just know I could make something crazy
Have you ever
produced for a non hip-hop act?
I've done a few R&B joints, some Reggae. Nobody
you'd be familiar with though.
I have to admit I was
not so sure of your mic skills initially, as I paid
more attention to your beats, but you are also very
sharp with the lyrics, I gave ďBlack DawnĒ 5/5 when
I heard it, and it has since been spinning on my
ipod non stop, how do you approach writing a track?
I really just do what the beat tells me, I like to
have order though, like if itís a group joint I like
to be on the same subject throughout. But other than
that itís just freehand thoughts. I try to make each
line mean something. Thereís a lot of thought about
what goes on the beat, I hate when I feel like a
song could have been better lyrically. Lyrics are
the final instrument.
Wu-International: As well as a solo artist you
are also a member of The Unknown with your brother
Kevlaar as well as a member of the 7 Wisemen, please
can you break down the members of the 7 Wisemen and
history of the group?
The Wisemen is a group consisting of
myself, Kevlaar 7, Phillie from West Detroit, Salute
from Detroit, Illa Dayz from Detroit, Break Bread
from Detroit, Wild Child from Grand Rapids. It was
seven of us before but itís growing and will most
likely end up being a revolving cast with me,
Kevlaar, Phillie and Salute as the main members.
Wu-International: Thanks, will they ever be a
Yeah we actually have several songs
done, and are close to finishing recording the
album. Production duties are shared by Myself, and
Kevlaar, and maybe 1 or 2 more. The album should be
in stores soon.
Are they any other
groups you are affiliated with we do not know of?
Wu-International: So your new album ďThe
Great MigrationĒ is coming out 23rd of May, how are
you feeling about it?
Iím feeling good, It was a learning
experience to do my first official album. I think
people are going to notice the lyrics. A lot of my
lyrics have double meaning and I always try to give
you something visual so pay attention to the lyrics.
I have a joint called Poem Burial Ground, and I
strung so many words together the flow is crazy but
at the same time Iím saying crazy shit. Like ďMy
sinister stings/glimmer like ministerís rings/echo
like singers who sing/ near hills and valleys of
Kings/Ē So you get an ill rhyme pattern and some
substance. And its not the same flow on every song,
Wu-International: Just like to say the art cover
is ill, I assume Nubian Images did it? Why have you
titled it The Great Migration?
Yeah thatís a Nubian work. But I gave
it this title because it has been a long road up to
this point. I traced my roots back to Slavery, so
Iím an extension of the true Great Migration, where
freed slaves moved from the South to the North to
find work. This was the road they traveled to live,
and my album is a reflection of my growth and the
road I traveled.
types of concepts, issues or topics are covered on
your new album?
Life, Reparations, Skills, questions,
answers, deep thought, description. Itís a vivid
picture. A personal journey.
Wu-International: I am assuming you will be
handling most if not all the production duties on
the album? Any other producers on the album?
Nah just me, we were going to fit a
Kevlaar beat on their but didnít make it in time.
Being a Wu-Tang fan myself, I was pleased to see
that some of the guest spots included acts within
the FAM, I am definitely feeling the songs I have
heard so far, especially the track with Timbo King
ďMore Than GoldĒ, the combo of you and Bo king was
excellent, do you have any favorite track(s) on the
Yeah my favorite is either ďThe PainĒ
or ďBlack RoyaltyĒ. The verse on Black royalty is
I heard about you
releasing the great migration album about 3 or so
years ago, seems the album has been in works for a
long time now, why has it taken you so long to get
Just growing into the business a
little more, waiting for the right opportunity to
get it out there.
Wu-International: On the completed but unreleased album section
our website, we had a listing of some of the songs
for the great migration album some years back that
were supposed to be released such as Through The
Eyes (ft. LA The Darkman), Four Strokes of Bronze
Fist (ft. Cilvaringz, Beretta 9 & Killa Sin),
Entity's Theme (ft. 4th Disciple) etc, Did some of
those tracks you recorded make the album or did you
do entirely new songs?
Nah those were songs that were in the
plans but never materialized. I do have a track with
4th rhyming on it, but Iím saving it for
You were involved
with a number of online internet releases some years
back, If you were not currently getting your
album out by babygrande records, would you have put
the album out independently or continued shopping
until you got a deal you were happy with?
Nah I would have continued shopping
Wu-International: How did you hook up with
Dreddy Kruger and got involved with Think
Differently Music / Babygrande records?
I met Dreddy in 36 Chambers when I
was trying to get my paperwork done with Rza. Me and
Dreddy stayed in touch and he reached out when he
got his situation.
has Dreddyís role been in the release of this album?
Bronze: He A&Ríd the joint, arranged it,
helped mix it. Itís on his label, so we put our
heads together and hashed out what was needed, he
made it happen on the business side too.
Wu-International: Word is LA The Darkman would
be next after you on Think Differently Music, will
you be contributing to Darkman II album?
Bronze: Last I knew LA picked up 4 or 5 for
Wu-International: What ever happened to the
intended internet release of trilogy of
swordsmanship part 3 (Two Champions Of Shaolin) you
were supposed to complete with Moongod Allah? and
and are you still in touch with Moongod and was he
involved in your new project?
Nah he wasn't a part of the album simply cause we
just werenít around each other. A long time ago I
had a beat from him for the album but it never
happened. Thatís my man though. Weíll do something
in the future.
Wu-International: Of all the projects you've
done, which are you most proud of? And Do you have
plans for a Bronze Nazareth producer-based LP, in
the vein of say Hi-Tek and Da Beatminerz?
Iím most proud of
Rzaís ďA Day to God is 1,000 YearsĒ. It was the
first official joint I had in stores, and one of my
favorite beats. So to have Rza on it was a blessing.
Iíd do a producer-based album but Iíd mad picky with
who I got on it cause Iíd want it perfect.
With the common trend of producers lacing a full album for
emcees these days (e.g. 9th Wonder & Murs, 4th
Disciple & Hell Razah, DJ Muggs & GZA/Genius) is
there any artist out there you are
feeling and would do a whole album with?
Yeah Iíd do a whole album with any one from Wu obviously. I
talked to Masta Killa about it briefly. Iíd do a
whole joint without question. But like I said before
Iíd do an album with Cube, Mos Def, Beanie Sigel,
AZ, Kam, RA, just too many too name that Iíd feel I
could make a banger with. Iíd jump at the
On same topic of common trends, is
the release a mix tape before or after an album. You
already blessed us with Though For Food Vol. 1, will
you be following that up?
Yeah Iíma have something for part two, not sure when
Another up and coming trend is the release of instrumental
albums, will you be releasing instrumentals to the
Great Migration or even releasing all new
Not sure at this point. We may release GM as instrumentals.
So whatís next after the great migration, any future side
projects in the mix (e.g. movies, commercials, Tours
We have more albums coming, a steady streamÖ
Do you have any protťgťs that you're grooming to be hot
I have a few, but really itís about if they are serious or
not. Listen to the Wisemen when it drops, they will
feed you what you need.
People say that Wu has fallen off? What is your response to
They should listen deeper. Quit staying confined to whatís
all on TV, thereís other music out here, just gotta
If you weren't in the hip hop business, what would you be
Whatever I could figure out to pay the bills and feed my
family, by any means necessary.
You have definitely paid your
dues, what advice would you give to a young
emcee or producer who wants to have a music
Bronze: STAY DETERMINED. Everyone wants to
rhyme but can you wait out the years before you
make it? You need that drive or you wonít make
Wu-International: Thanks very much for your
time, shouts out to the people at babygrande
records for making this interview possible,
anything else you might want to add that we
missed? Any final words for the people who are
reading this, Shout outs etc?
Bronze: Thanks to Wu International for the
lookout. GET THE ALBUM ITíS THE FIRST IN A
PUZZLE OF GREATNESS THATíS BOUT TO HIT THE
EARTH. SUPPORT IT!!!!
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