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Interview
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Now
we’re halfway our “School For The Blindman”-week, we
will sit down with the man himself: Bronze Nazareth.
Although it does seem not that long ago we have
interviewed him in our Wu-Elements series, a lot has
happened since then: we finally saw the release of
his second solo album but also the second Wisemen
album came out, he helped produce Timbo King’s “From
Babylon to Timbuktu”, produced an entire album for
Italy’s Project Manzu which was released last week
and if that wasn’t enough delivered beats for
Raekwon and Dom Pachino, dropped a verse alongside
RZA, U-God and Cappadonna on the “Legendary Weapons”
album. But no rest for the wicked as we learned he
is already preparing a Bronze raid on 2012 with an
impressive lists of projects to come out very soon!
Want to know where the man gets all the energy and
drive to do all this and more? Then read our
interview with Bronze Nazareth, one of the most
productive artists in the Wu-niverse the last years,
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I like to say thanks first and foremost for
taking the time to answer these questions, highly
appreciated, and will also point out that nothing will be
altered, edited or changed when this is published online.
Wu-International: Peace Bronze, how are you?
Bronze Nazareth: I'm good bruh, feeling good
about shit at the moment, no doubt
Wu-International: It’s been a long wait for the fans.
How do you feel now the second solo is finally out there ?
Bronze Nazareth: I'm proud it's like another
painting in my sixteenth chapel of sound, so there's a lot
of work put in to it and to have it out here and to hear the
good passionate feedback is just all blessings.
Wu-International:
So the first reactions were mostly positive so far?
Bronze Nazareth: It's getting a glorious
response, people are appreciating the art and we're in a
time when real art is surging back, people want to hear ART
from artists. Shit been so watered down, that people are
coming back to reality, and reality music.
Wu-International: On a recent review it was stated
this album leaned too heavy on the old Wu sound and wasn’t
enough Bronze’s own style. I feel it’s the opposite: your
debut had a heavier Wu influence and now it seems you have
found your own style much more on this second album. How do
you look at this ?
Bronze Nazareth: I guess people will interpret what
they want to hear. One thing with Wu is sometimes it can
typecast you....When a reviewer is handed some music and
they not up on who it is, they might get told "oh he's a Wu
artist", and their thoughts go directly into the mode of Wu
sound. So yeah I have some joints with a Wu influence, but
it's really just a safe bet for any lazy reviewer to lump me
in and say it's an "old sound". Nobody says this about
something like Kanye' s “Devil In A New Dress”, cause he's
not linked with the Clan... Really if you listen, not just
hear my album if you listen, it's obvious I got my own lane.
Wu-International:
True, how would you compare the two albums?
Bronze Nazareth:
Hmmm, it' s like two very different
albums to me. “Migration” was underground, grimy, very
thoughtful. Yet there were mistakes on there, and it was my
first shot. With “School”, I felt more in control, I'm
responsible for the mistakes, and I feel I got closer to
getting the album as I foresaw it. I was more patient with
School too.
Wu-International: Can you give any examples of some
of the things you see as mistakes on “The Great Migration”?
Bronze Nazareth:
One thing
was on the Bronzeman: Originally I had two verses on there.
When Sin got on it, Dreddy decided to fuse my two verses
into one, but in the process, he got the second half
waaaaaay off beat. Also some of the mixing/mastering came
out bad like on "Stolen Van Gogh" and “Black Royalty”. They
sounded over compressed and a bit distorted. So there was
more little things like my hook & some singing getting cut
off of “$ Cash Rules”...shit like that changed it slightly
from how it was supposed to be.
Wu-International: Interesting. Let’s go back to the
new album: You had worked with Project Lionheart intensively
last years on the 60 Sec album, the second Wisemen album and
to a lesser degree on “School for the Blindman”. Did these
recordings with live instrumentation evolve throughout these
projects ?
Bronze Nazareth:
Umm Lionheart is a
very talented group, there wasn't much evolution in what
they were doing, we just said yo, I need some extras on
this, this and this, so I'd see which song would benefit
from some live shit, and then I sat and looked at each one
like, yo this could use some horns and “Gomorrah” needs a
live bassline, or add some ill percussion to “Children of A
Lesser”...and they executed. So it's really like envisioning
something and bringing it to life on each joint.
Wu-International: You also had the chance to work in
the studio with the Revelations for the Legendary Weapons
sessions. Would you say the process was the same or totally
different compared to working with Project Lionheart and how
?
Bronze Nazareth: Well really I came thru when all the
music was already laid out, so I can't say how they got down
with the instruments, but I think they differ from LH
because I use Lionheart as instruments in my beats, whereas
Revelations come from scratch with theirs, to create the
beat.
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Wu-International:
That is indeed a good comparison, thanks. Now this
album took quite a while to come out after your
first, we know you have been busy with other
projects but do you feel it was necessary for this
album to take so much time? Bronze Nazareth:
No it wasn't
necessary, it took waaaay too long but, in taking
that time I was able to acquire certain features,
and hash out my ideas fully. The next one won' t be
nearly as long a wait.
Wu-International: You make it sound as if you have
already started on that album or am I mistaken?
Bronze Nazareth: I'm halfway through three new solo
projects. It's a flood brewing that's going to hit all in
2012. That's not a prediction like 'this year is mine' typoe
shit. That's what we WILL do.
Wu-International: Great to hear, we’ll get back at
those projects in a sec. Let’s talk a little more about the
new album first: sometimes songs seem to write themselves,
which track came about the easiest/fastest?
Bronze Nazareth:
Probably “The
Letter”, simply because I just let the pen go and wrote out
my honest feelings. I just opened up on that and it was easy
because these are all the things I wanted to let him know
before he passed so, I could only do that in letter form. |
Wu-International: Other tracks can drive an artist
crazy during its “conceiving”, can you give us an example of
one of the “Blindman” songs that was a hard one to crack?
Bronze Nazareth:
“Reggie” definitely
drove me crazy as described in the album’s Resident
Viewpoint.
Wu-International: Was there any feature that you
wanted for this album that never happened?
Bronze Nazareth: Not really, my features usually just
come about, there were a few that didn’t work out but the
features I did have were enough. There will always be a long
list of people I want for features, and it just depends on
when we connect.
Wu-International: Seems you have done songs with
almost all the Generals apart from Method Man and Ghostface
Killah(we think you and Ghost is a way overdue collabo). Who
would you still like to work with the most from the Clan
that has not happened yet?
Bronze Nazareth:
Of course, either Ghostface or Method Man. I’ve always
thought Ghost would sound ill on my music, he’s picked beats
out for projects from me a few times before, but for
whatever reason we haven’t made it on a record together yet.
I think we will though because Ghost keeps his ear to who’s
bubbling and even outside just Wu Fans I got respect in hip
hop, and I’m on fire with the work.
Wu-International: Great, fingers crossed on that !
Speaking of the Generals, there seems to have been some sort
of misunderstanding between yourself and U-God over Twitter
some time back, how did you feel about his reaction to your
comment and have you both sorted this out?
Bronze Nazareth:
Yeah we’ve crossed paths spoke briefly in grand rapids, and
chopped it up NY in the studio for a bit, there’s no problem
there. How did I feel about it? Didn’t bother me, I didn’t
lose any sleep over it.
Wu-International: Good to hear. You have a track
with Willy the Kid on and it seems you are both working on a
joint album “The Living Day Lights”. What convinced you to
give WTK a guest spot and the opportunity to work more
together soon?
Bronze Nazareth:
It’s been long overdue. We went to high school together, I
remember sitting in ms Simons algebra class a few seats away
from Willie. Willie has been doing his thing with big bro La
down in Atlanta for a minute. I always checked the Embassy
and DJ Drama mixtapes, and really respected his MC’ ing. We
just been bumping into each other more and more and he
blessed me with the “Farewell” Joint. And then it’s only
natural to get a whole project out here with me and him,
which more will be revealed in the near future.
Wu-International:
Can you please tell us more about “The Living Day Lights” is
that the name of the group, project, album etc?
Bronze Nazareth:
It’s in the works still so I
can’t divulge too much but just expect fire....pure
heat...blades nigga! I don’t want to let out any info and
compromise how they are going to come at promotion so I’ll
leave it at that.
Wu-International:
Fair enough. So is this a producer/Mc project as in; will
your role mainly focus on being a producer, an MC or both?
Bronze Nazareth:
More so
production, but I rhyme on it as well.
Wu-International:
And how many songs deep are you both with this project
and when do you intend to put it out?
Bronze Nazareth:
8 or 9 deep so far....
Wu-International: Thanks, we look forward to this
project. Speaking of La the Darkman, your sound fits him
like a glove. Can we hope for more collaborations?
Bronze Nazareth:
Yeah La goes in on my shit. I did six
joints on Return of the Darkman 2.
Wu-International: Which is your own personal
favourite feature on “Blindman” and why?
Bronze Nazareth: Probably have to go with Masta Killa,
just cause how we did it, he came to Manhattan and
laid his verse in an apartment I was stayin in, I
rigged the mic onto a lamp shade and MK wrote it
there and laid it for me. One of the realest
brothers in the game!
Wu-International:
In our previous interview you
said Cilvaringz produced “Bronzeman 2” but in the
booklet it’s credited as your track, did you rename
a new song or changed the beat to the one Ringz
produced?
Bronze Nazareth: Nah it was originally produced by
Cilvaringz, but I guess Ringz needed the beat
because Meth wanted it, so me and Ringz are cool,
and I’d rather he get that placement with Meth so I
agreed to use something else. I then created a beat
to replace the Cilvaringz joint.
Wu-International: Would it be possible to hear the
original versions of "BM2" and "King of queens?
Bronze Nazareth:
Though I'd love to....I
can't give out the Cilvaringz version because : 1. Meth
plans on using it and I don't want to ruin the 'newness' of
it when it drops. 2. I never finished my part on the
Cilvaringz beat so it isn’t a finished version. For the
“King of Queens” original, a well known artist has scooped
that up too, if you're a fan of the generals, you'll hear
that soon, but until then I can't release that either.
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Wu-International: A shame but understandable. What
inspired the title for this album?
Bronze Nazareth: The
title is basically the idea that you don’t always
have to see to learn. You can learn by listening.
And it’s also a play on me saying my writings can
let the blind see.
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Wu-International: So “School for the blindman” was
released via ihiphop distributions, we assume this is more
or less the same as Babygrande Records who you have publicly
fallen out with from time to time, can you please tell us
what their role was this time around and why you choose to
use them?
Bronze Nazareth:
Well ihiphop is not babygrande, some of the same
players yes, but it’s a different company with a different
setup. After the deal I got with Sound Records went south as
they folded, ihiphop offered me a hell of a deal, and
offered to get my past grievances with Babygrande releases
in order before I signed – they kept their word so we all
had a chance to get back on the right track and get this
album out.
Wu-International: Can you elaborate on what those
grievances were about or is that something you’d rather
leave alone?
Bronze Nazareth:
I could elaborate but now that the waters are smoother
that way I'm not going to go into that.
Wu-International: Again understandable. Your first
album was via Thinkdifferently Music, are you still signed
to the label and when last did you work with Dreddy Kruger?
Bronze Nazareth: Nah not signed to Think
Differently anymore, last I worked with Dreddy was on his
group Folk & Stress album which I don’t think came out.
Wu-International: Dreddy Kruger released “Wu-Tang
Meets The Indie Culture - The Lost Files” a few months ago
with amongst others unreleased beats from you and Kevlaar 7.
According to Kevlaar this had been done without your
permission. Can you comment on this?
Bronze Nazareth: Yeah it was some more pirate
shit, where this dude just took a bunch of my unreleased
shit and a couple of Kev’s shit and made up this project,
released it, makin money off it and haven’t gave me any
bread, or any paperwork. So same ol bullshit. Im’a get my
money though.
Wu-International: Now we’ve mentioned Kevlaar 7: he’s
dropping his “Die ageless” album soon, everyone will
be expecting to see you on there too. How involved
were you with the production or features?
Bronze Nazareth: Oh I’m definitely involved in that,
I have a few beats on there, a verse or two. Kev
kinda likes to do his thing on his own though so as
far as the musical direction and who he sought to
feature, that was his doing.
Wu-International: Some fans claim the
production style of the two of you is too similar.
How do you see this?
Bronze Nazareth: Similar
style, yes but he has a bit of a different ear, and
why wouldn’t he sound a bit similar? He learned from
me so at times we may have similar sounds. But I’m
able to hear all his beats unreleased brand new or
whatever, we definitely have a different sound.
Wu-International: There have been words of you and
Kevlaar working with Endemic on a full project; care
to speak on that please?
Bronze Nazareth:
Yeah
we’ve spoke on it, nothing concrete yet. Could
happen...
Wu-International: Sounds like an Unknown album
produced entirely by Endemic to me which should be a
dope album. While the Wisemen have grown and
continue to grow, can the fans still expect you and
Kev to drop another Unknown project ever again?
Bronze Nazareth: Yeah we will
eventually go in an do another Unknown, probably
sooner than later. We are really about to start
dropping projects back to back . No more waiting.
Wu-International: Good to hear! Speaking of another
project that just dropped: you fully produced an
album for a group out in Italy “Project Manzu”, can
you please tell us how this came about and your
thoughts on the overall album?
Bronze Nazareth:
Well they
contacted me and told me what they wanted to do, we
agreed on terms and knocked it out. I think it’s
dope to go international with it. I’m proud of those
brothers Daimajin & Divine Soldier for workin hard
and knockin that out.
Wu-International: So are we. In our review of
“Children of a Lesser God” I felt the album jumped a
bit back and forth between brilliant and
disappointing (in a recent interview you called it
an “experimental” album). I got feedback from
Kevlaar who felt and appreciated the honest review
but I always wondered how you felt about the album
in retrospect?
Bronze Nazareth:
I
love that album. I’m super disappointed on how
people slept on it. I thought it had great great
lyrics and ill beats. We put a little comedy in
there, maybe that threw some off. But we wanted to
carve out our own identity. The weird things was a
lot of Wu Fans felt we abandoned the Wu sound, but
the average hip hop fan felt it more. So at the end
of the day we’re hip hop, we can’t be always just Wu
related. I don’t know if I was right sayin it was
experimental but we reinvented the sound a bit.
Thing is if we stay the same people say “it’s all
the same” but then when you flip it, they’re upset
because you changed. Can’t please everyone, so we
just make music we feel and hope it resonates.
Wu-International: True. Let’s look at what’s to come.
One can assume the Wisemen are now on the third
project? Is each individual member also working on
his solo project and if so can you please tell us
who and your involvement if any?
Bronze Nazareth:
Well actually we
haven’t started the third Wisemen yet, because it’s
time for solo albums. I’ve been working on
everyone’s solo with them, so those are all next:
Kevlaar 7 – Die Ageless 90% done Phillie –
Welcome to the Detroit Zoo 70% done Salute Da
Kidd – Diggstown 50% done Illah Dayz – 60% done
June Mega – 7 tracks in
Thus far I produced a majority of all the solos,
except Kevaar’s album and will be featured on all
throughout, prominently on Phillies album.
Wu-International: Damn, sounds like 2012 will be the
year of the Wisemen ! The initial official video for
the superb “Worship” did not have Salute Da Kid on
it, any reasons why?
Bronze Nazareth:
He
couldn’t make it to the Grand Rapids shoot, so the
show had to go on. We told him we’ll get him in
later, so then we released the V2 version where we
got his footage and added him in. Dope song!
Wu-International: You informed us you have plans for
a book. Can you elaborate on that or is it too soon?
Bronze Nazareth:
Yeah it’s a lyrical
breakdown book I’m working on with Peter Quadrino of
abuildingroam.com blog. It’s going to be similar to
the breakdowns I used to have on
www.bronzenazareth.com , where I point out my
train of thought and what exactly I mean in my
verses. It will be a good read definitely.
Wu-International: Definitely, what else can we expect
from you now the second solo is out there? Any other
projects you can tell us about besides the ones
mentioned above?
Bronze Nazareth: Yes “Thought for food 3” is
underway, and I got an EP I’m finishing that’s not
titled yet, I also have an EP called “The ANGER EP”,
and I’m working on a project with production with no
samples.
Wu-International: Sounds like you’ll be flooding us
with projects, great news! On a general note before
we end this interview, what is the most important
lesson you have learnt in your career this far?
Bronze Nazareth:
Take care of your
relationships, Don’t burn bridges. You will at some
point have to go back to go forward.
Wu-International: Sounds like you had to go back
yourself at one point in the past ? Can you perhaps
explain what you are referring to?
Bronze Nazareth:
Nah I keep it
progressive but like I said.... on the way up, you
will meet people, and every person you meet, is
themselves going up or down, those same people below
you can soon be those people above you. So I ALWAYS
keep it 100, and build relationships through
integrity. If you ruffle feathers on your way up no
one is there to catch you on the way down. I knew
that from jump, so it didn't take me to burn a
bridge in order to learn. I just never burnt any
from jump.
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Wu-International: Your production skills and
abilities are becoming well recognised within the Wu
ranks and outside, how have you managed to keep
active and relevant and out there as you are
probably the most active Wu Elements around right
now?
Bronze Nazareth:
Because I
honestly work hard, I GRIND. I believe those who
work hard, are rewarded in time. And by the grace of
God, I’m getting work consistently. I always tell my
niggas, if you shovel the coal, the train has to
move. It’s cause and effect.
Wu-International: Anything else you would like to
share with the fans that have not been covered
already? Shout outs ?
Bronze Nazareth: Shout out Wu-Int for showing love
and supporting. If you don’t have the album “School
for the blindman”, GO GET IT! UR LATE FOR CLASS!!!!
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