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SHOULD HAVE BROKE THROUGH ALL ALONG
[Wu-Tang International Breaks Bread With The King Of Fame - Darkim Be Allah]


Interview Date: 29. November. 2005

Conducted By: Dark 7 Invader

Notes:
Thanks to Darkim Be Allah, and Josh Raybuck (ghostface9_Texas)


Interview

Should Have Broke Through All Along [Wu-International Breaks Bread With The King Of Fame Darkim Be Allah]:

2005 brings back a new wave of reincarnation of what was once a trend setting form of hip-hop’s purest art form, Wu-Tang! Be it from any of the 9 generals or Wu-Killa beez, when the W invaded hip-hop and music in general there was nothing like it, a new chamber in the hip-hop/rap history was defined. It was not hard to tell back then when you hear a new artist based on their lyrical style, subject matter and quality of music, one can quickly and rightfully associate it to be wu-tang affiliated, any affiliation with the W dealt with quality, eminence and high level of intelligence and lyrical wordplay.

The RZA introduced the world the first generation of Killa beez, which had a number of skilled MCs/Singers, groups or solo acts as showcased on the swarm compilation, from Sunz Of Man, Killarmy, A.I.G, Black Knights, Wu-Syndicates, Royal Fam, to Shyheim, Killah Priest, Cappadonna, Remedy, LA The Darkman, Tekitha and so on. Since then they have been a flood of Nu-tangers, solo projects from group members and what not, but the core fans have never ever let go of the first born killa beez. A sting off the 36 chambers was Darkim Be Allah, half member of the duo A.I.G. along side AllahWise, who pretty much went AWOL since 2000. The last notes remembered from Darkim Be Allah was one EP released, and memory of expected albums fans disappointedly never got hold of, What does hip-hop consumers remember of the artist who went silent at the prime of he’s career? He’s a quick reminder;

1996 Darkim Be Allah got signed to Wu-Tang records as one half of the group AIG.
1997 DBA produced the track “12 Jewels” featuring The RZA off the Gravediggaz album “The Pick, The Sickle, The Shovel (Gee Street records).
1998 Wu-Tang Killa Beez “The Swarm” (Wu-Tang records) – Certified Gold LP. Produced “Bronx War Story” for AIG featuring 120.
1999 Released Unmixed studio promo from the upcoming album “Truth Or Consequences”
2000 June releases “Live At The lab; Take 1 on MP3.com
2000 Summer Onwards expected releases of “Retaliation Strike” “Take Lab 2” and more…….
2001
2002
2003
2004
2005 rumours surfaced online that Darkim Be Allah would be blessing the world again with a new album, after august this rumours were confirmed by Darkim’s manager, A new album Fam Labs presents “Darkim Be Allah & AllahWise” was about to drop on, the 29th of November. With so many questions to why, when, and what, Wu-tang International had the pleasures of talking to one of hip-hop’s finest Darkim Be Allah, enjoy! With the new album just released, The King has truly returned to claim he's thrown and in he's own words "Should Have Broke Through All Along".

Album has just been released and can be bought at www.famelabsmusic.com
 

   

Dark 7 Invader: I like to say thanks first and foremost for taking the time to answer these interviews and I would like to say, nothing will be altered, edited or changed
when this is published online.

Dark 7 Invader: Peace God, How are you?
Darkim Be Allah: Peace.

Dark 7 Invader: Sure been a long time since the fans heard anything from you,
what have you been up to?
Darkim Be Allah: Hustling and recording.

Dark 7 Invader: Where in NY are you from?
Darkim Be Allah: The Pelan

Dark 7 Invader: How long have you been rhyming?
Darkim Be Allah: I wasn't serious about it until I started rhyming with AllahWise, that was like 1989.

Dark 7 Invader: What does your name Darkim Be Allah stand for?
Darkim Be Allah: Darkim means The King.

Dark 7 Invader: What other names or aliases do you go by?
Darkim Be Allah: AllahChrist, Donnie Banks, King Of Fame

Dark 7 Invader: I have to say the chemistry between you and Allah wise on the mic, can only be compared to EPMD, or Ghost & Rae on Cuban linx, how did you meet or connect with Allah Wise to form AIG?
Darkim Be Allah: Actually I knew who he was and that he was an emcee from junior high school. Because he had tapes already circulating. Then when I got knowledge of self was when we officially met. As far as rhyming that was kind of spur of the moment. Like I said, rhyming was something I was doing from time to time but I didn't really have like rhymes on cap and I wouldn't be outside with somebody doing the beat box while I was rhyming. And AllahWise was an emcee but at the time he wasn't focused on it, but he still had rhymes on cap and new ones he was working on. And basically we was rolling together everyday and on whichever day it was, we was passing by a brothers rest and he had D.J. equipment and was blasting his music. When we got upstairs Supreme Just was up there making a tape. And it's almost another long story in itself, but basically I said I could rhyme but I didn't have any rhymes on cap. So they dared me to come back with some rhymes. The next day I came back with some rhymes, me and AllahWise made a tape and we basically just kept rhyming together.

Dark 7 Invader: Can you please list all the artists that are affiliated with fame labs?
Darkim Be Allah: Actually that's a hard list to compile because it's alot of us. I'll
put that up on the www.FameLabsMusic.com when I make sure nobody's left out.

Dark 7 Invader: Did you ever know that you are 1 of the 4 highly sort after Wu-tang killa beez on the net? How do you feel about that, where you ever aware that you were loved or missed that much?
Darkim Be Allah: Not at all. I've seen my name on websites before so I knew there was some heads that knew who I was.... top four though, nah.

Dark 7 Invader: the other artists I am taking about are Warcloud aka holocaust from Black knights, LA The Darkman, Cilvaringz, and you of course, fans are for ever looking for new album release or info about or from you all, do you know any of these other artists?
Darkim Be Allah: I know Holocaust but I haven't seen him in years. I met La a few times but I don't really know him. Cilvaringz I've only heard of.

Dark 7 Invader: The fans that remember you, consider you to be one of the most lyrical artists not just in the Wu but in hip-hop today, how do you feel that to date you have not publicly gotten the recognition that you deserve?

Darkim Be Allah: Well actually that's one of the reasons I’m doing this on the independent tip. Maybe that way I can let my fans and even some new people hear my music. Cause the industry for whatever reason or the other ain't feeling me. Like they got they own idea of how hip hop is supposed to sound and where it’s going. And my music just doesn't fit in with that. Billboard magazine and M.T.V. is one way to measure your success, and I ain't knocking that. However, that's not really "public" recognition; it’s not even peer recognition.

That's the pop music industry letting you know who they like. "Public" recognition is really when the people, the fans, say you got skills. So if the fans say I'm one of the top cats in the game, all I can say is I wish more people would have gotten a chance to hear more of my music. And then to look on the positive side of it, for me to even have fans and not be on the radio 35 or 40 times a day kind of makes me feel like the people's champion.

Dark 7 Invader: what is your creative process like?
Darkim Be Allah: I don't know if I really have a formula. If I'm the one doing the production I play all my beats out, I haven't used samples, but I play by ear. I never took any lessons, I read a couple music books and watched some DVDs with music lessons on it but that was recently. It's just whatever sounds like we can kill on it. Then once I hear the beat it kind of already has a certain feel that directs the rhymes. Sometimes I already have a rhyme that fits but usually I write to the beat. Then I listen to the whole record and take the main idea and come up with the hook. I don't usually make beats and rhymes on the same day. It's usually either or, except some beats just be calling me.

Dark 7 Invader: From your past work, it is quite evidence you build with the Nations of Gods and Earths, are you still active within the nation?
Darkim Be Allah: Yes.

Dark 7 Invader: You are very skilled in painting pictures with your lyrics, a true wordsmith, and your use of metaphors are unrivalled by any in the game, it is quite obvious that you read a lot. What books have you read that you would recommend to anybody?
Darkim Be Allah: I don't read enough. I really haven't read that many books. My recommendation to everyone would be the Book of Life.

Darkim Be Allah: Who are your favourite writers? And does this or any other
source influence your writing or music making process?
Darkim Be Allah: I liked a lot of cats over the years. I mean you know you got the same cats mentioned every time that question is asked. For me I love hip hop, and I can think of a lot of artists that came out with records that give me a spark to push my level higher. I would say they influence me because I make songs to battle other songs sometimes. I want to draw a line here and define that when I say battle I don't mean dis the record or the artist or that there's any conflict. In fact a lot of the time the other artist is AllahWise. My song might not even be about the same topic. What I mean is sometimes a record comes out that raises the bar to a level where if you not gonna step your game up you might as well quit. That happens in every profession. Like back in the day you had Jordan and a couple other cats doing spectacular dunks. Now all you see is high flying spectacular shit, that's growth and development. Other than that sometimes if I been away from making music for a while I might listen to a classic album to put me back in the right mind state. The biggest influence on my music is shit that happens to me though. Those verses make the best songs.

Dark 7 Invader: how did you meet the RZA and how did you become Wu-tang affiliated?
Darkim Be Allah: His manager when he made Sexcapades was a godbody from around my way that me and AllahWise used to build with. And he brought Rza around the way. We was kicking verses back then just on the corner or in the park or whatever, then eventually he came out with Protect Your Neck. I wasn't seeing him then but I knew it was him from his voice and his style. And I knew ODB and Gza but at that time I didn’t know any of the other Wu Tang Clan. Then when I ran into Rza he put me on.

Dark 7 Invader: Where were you when you heard of ODB's passing? Did you know him
personally?
Darkim Be Allah: I think I was on the block hustling and somebody I knew heard it on the radio and told me. Yea I knew him.

Dark 7 Invader: Do you still consider yourself A Wu-tang Killa Bee?
Darkim Be Allah: I mean it was never an argument or an event where there was a split or nothing like that. At the same time there's been a couple of Killa Bee projects that came out and I was left out. You can't take back the wax, so as far as whatever I do, that's always gonna be a part of my catalogue that I put in work as a Killa Bee. As far as the future though I'm not sure how they planning on using me and AllahWise. Like I don't know one way or the other if I'll be appearing on anymore Wu Tang Killa Bee projects. That being said AllahWise did tell me there was some talk about some work for us in 2006. Either way instead of just sitting on all this music......Fame Labs Presents! 11/29.

Dark 7 Invader: Do you still build with any of the Wu-tang clan members or affiliates?
Darkim Be Allah: Well pretty much sometime in 1999 or 2000 it came to a point where I was on the back burner in the Wu and I realized I was making more money in the streets before I got involved with the industry than I was right then. So basically went back to what I know to make some paper. And that was really my focus. To me it was like why should I go maintain with millionaires and I'm starving. I might as well go spend that time doing something that’s going to get me closer to getting a mil. Not that I was making millions in the street but at least my bills was paid, you know I got seeds to feed and I couldn't keep putting that on hold to pursue something that was looking like a pipe dream at that time. So since that time I haven't gone to any Wu functions, parties, shows, the studio or whatever. A lot of people affiliated with Wu are actually brothers I knew for years months and days before Wu even dropped. So yea I still see them all the time and build. There's other affiliates I see during my travels from time to time. Other than that I would have to say nah I don't be in contact with them. AllahWise kicks it with Clan members and affiliates, and when they in town he goes to check them.

Dark 7 Invader: Words on the net is that you had an album completed for wu-tang/Priority back then but the masters were stolen alongside Royal Fam’s project, can you please shed light on this?
Darkim Be Allah: I did have an album done some time in 1996 or 1997. A lot of the songs didn't come out too good because that’s when I was first learning how to translate my ideas and my energy in that forum. Like being on stage and being in the studio is different. I didn't know what to tell the audio engineers to do to make my beats sound like I wanted them to sound. And I didn't have any help, I just found a studio paid my money and started recording. So overall I wanted to do it over, however I thought it had some very strong singles on it that could have been dropped or at least used on some project, which was part of my frustration by 2000. They wasn't dropping any of the singles or sending me back to the studio to improve on the album as a whole. Bronx War Story was actually one of the first of the songs I went to the studio on my own to record, to show them that I had stepped my game up. The next songs was the Live At The Lab songs, which I thought was the songs and the sound I really wanted. By that time though nobody at Wu Tang wanted to talk to me and that's pretty much when I fell back. As far as what happened to any of my work for Wu Tang I left it all there. I don't know what happened to it. I haven't inquired about it and like I said most of it wasn't my best work so I don't really want it back.

Dark 7 Invader: Can you please tell us what happened to live at the lab Take 2, and Retaliation Strike?
Darkim Be Allah: Basically I didn't like mp3.com too much. A lot of people was complaining about their system and a lot of people didn't want to order from them. And other than mp3.com at that time I didn't know how to market it. So they kinda got stuck in the chamber. Recently I had a little tragedy where I lost all those songs. All my beats- everything. I got about 25 or 30 songs left in my possession. It’s a possibility some of them can be salvaged. Right now though it looks bad. Some of the songs on Retaliation Strike might be on the new cd. I’m not sure cause I had so many songs recorded that I don't know which was recorded exactly when. But some of the songs on the new cd go back a ways.

Dark 7 Invader: The artwork for fame lab and retaliation strike is crazy, who did that?
Darkim Be Allah: The same guy that designs my site. Most of the time I have an idea and he produces it. Sometimes I don't have an idea and he gives me a whole bunch of ideas and I pick which one I like.

Dark 7 Invader: You produced 12 Jewels off the Gravediggaz album, which is a classic, how did that come about? Was that beat produced specifically for RZA?
Darkim Be Allah: I was down at the Wu office and Rza told me to go by the studio and put in some work. The beat was actually one of my first beats that I made when I got the ASR 10. I really didn't like it, but another brother convinced me to let them hear it. The day I layed it down Rza wasn't there and I didn't hear the record until almost when the album dropped. Then when I heard Rza spit on it I was like yea that brother was right.... this shit is banging.

Dark 7 Invader: You are equally a good producer as well as a lyricist, which do you prefer doing?
Darkim Be Allah: It fluctuates. I have mad fun doing both of them. At the end of the day I consider myself and emcee who produces though but never vice versa.

Dark 7 Invader: What equipment do you use to make beats?
Darkim Be Allah: ASR 10....still.

Dark 7 Invader: Lots of people say that hip hop today is not what it used to be, it has undergone a dramatic change. What are your thoughts on this?
Darkim Be Allah: I wouldn't say that its dramatically different, it’s that the rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Really, when you look at it, it was always a pop music industry contingent and a hardcore more underground hip hop contingent. One of the examples of that is that one of the first groups most people heard was Sugar Hill Gang, which was a studio group. Look at the late 80s, early 90s when you had MC Hammer and Vanilla Ice on one hand and Kool G Rap and KRS-1 on the other. The way I see it, that pop music contingent's influence has gotten bigger and bigger and hardcore hip hop contingent is basically still the same. The real difference is that years ago, if KRS sold 300,000 records that was great, but today selling 500,000 copies, and being nice on the mic makes you a laughingstock. So you starting to see more and more artists that are willing to go the pop route and do or say anything to make a buck and less and less hardcore hip hop artists, with actual skill that are allowed to make a buck. On that level, commercially, I don't really see that much difference. The biggest difference I do see is that nobody rhymes about their beats and rhymes being dope no more, everybody just rhymes about what they've got and how much they paid for it. Back in the days, somebody might have had a rhyme where they tell a story and that same thing might have happened to you before; but now when somebody tells a story it’s more likely to be something lavish and spectacular that didn't happen to them or anybody else in the whole history of time. Even in battle situations a lot of times the artists are just talking about who has the best record deal or the most money or fame; they don’t even mention rhyme skills. The other differences I see is a lot of petty shit that is related to a downturn in integrity in the hood in general; there's no more code of the streets. But hip hop is still hip hop and pop is still pop. It’s more of a case of people classifying certain pop and r&b music as hip hop.

Dark 7 Invader: What albums did you listen to growing up, and what do you listen to now?
Darkim Be Allah: I pretty much listened to whatever my parents was playing until hip hop came out. Once hip hop really hit and you had Red Alert, Chuck Chill Out and Mr. Magic and Marley on the radio, it was a take down; I really only listen to hip hop since then. Right now I don't even listen to music. Every blue moon, somebody might pass by in a whip playing something that catches my ear, but as far as like watching BET and MTV or listening to the hot-top-8-at-8, nah, I don't get down like that.

Dark 7 Invader: Your verse on World Domination off take 1 is probably one of the
illest verses I have heard to date, what in your opinion is your best work to date?
Darkim Be Allah: World Domination might be my favorite joint too. The bonus track-actually a couple of tracks on this new CD too. I like to think I get better every time I record. Over the years, a couple of times, I hit on some real personal topics, those are always some of my favorite joints. Then you have songs like "Niggas Know", which I consider one of my Darkim specials. The song was real simple but in the end, the way it all came together, that was one of my favorite joints. Really what it comes down to also, is one of the things I learned from turning in that album on Wu Tang That I wasn't happy with, is never put a song out there unless it’s one of my favorites. So really, by the time fans hear it, it’s already one of my favorite jump offs. And right now my elimination process is so good that I eliminate what I don't like before I record it. If I feel like a song ain't coming together, I just erase it. Or give the beat to someone else who can lace it right. But I have to agree with you that World Domination is a song that if I only had one song that people were going to remember me by, World Domination might be one of my top choices to represent me. All goes well and you’ll hear some of my favorites on my solo in July that the fans haven’t had a chance to hear yet.

Dark 7 Invader: Please tell us about the new album, How did it come about, why
did you decide to release it first? How do you feel about it?
Darkim Be Allah: Really, it’s a whole bunch of songs I had collecting dust in the lab. Hip hop is something I just like doing, so I'm gonna do it whether my songs is on the radio or on Billboard or not. Its like if a cat don't go to the pros, that ain't gonna stop him from going to the park or whatever to play a little ball. I always had plans to do something with the songs but part of what was holding me back was I didn't realize there was actually a demand for my music like I already had fans that was waiting to hear something from me. Really, the first inkling that I had of that was from Josh and then basically once he really let me know all the logistics and a plan on how we could market it, it was like alright fuck it, let’s just do it. And being that the idea and the plan came to me through him he was the best man to help me get the plan off the ground. The reason why I'm putting it out first is because at this point I have more confidence that individual fans will love my music and support it than I do in getting a major record deal right now. The Source comes out with a yearly issue of the most influential people in hip hop. Those 25 or 50 people on that list are the ones who decide what all the other 6 billion people on the planet are gonna like. They are the ones with the power to put you on Hot 97 or sign you to Def Jam. So I want to move around that 25-50 man barrier and put it directly in the hands of people who think my music is popping- the fans. Before this I was gonna shop it to an independent entity like Koch or Landspeed and generally in the industry right now, there's a rush to the underground so I was gonna do something like that but basically, this came up first and the bottom line is actually better this way. I'm not ruling out that something else might come up in the future but if this is successful enough just doing it myself, then you have to remember that’s how hip hop really started. The industry wasn't accepting hip hop, so brothers was doin it at house parties, in the park, wherever they could get their shit off at. Right now I'm really beyond the platinum chain wishes and fancy car dreams. So if I build a nice fan base right here I’ll stick with this. I don’t really want or need to be on MTV cribs and all that other type shit like that. I will be in brick and mortar stores soon. But whether it’s from a record deal as an artist or on my own through a distribution deal is the only question. It’s usually only affiliated with painting but it happens in music too- a lot of cats contribution won’t be appreciated until years later. The album is banging. This one was produced by Shakim. I only did one beat. It’s a laid back banger. A lot of hardcore smooth shit on this one, like “Where Does That Leave Me?”. When you hear this you gonna be able to say yea Dar and Wise still got it. I’m happy with this one. The next project in the works is AllahWise. I’ll be producing most of that one, so look for something a lil more hyped up and grimy. Some hard shit.

Dark 7 Invader: Are they all old songs from the past or new songs, or a mixture of both?
Darkim Be Allah: A mixture.

Dark 7 Invader: Few songs are leaked already, and there was suspicion that the album was not authorized by you, why did it take you so long to reply or contact the respective people who were interested in knowing about the album?
Darkim Be Allah: I don’t know any respective people. I got a kite from Josh telling me that I needed to write an email. I wrote the email. Next thing I heard I was the fake Darkim. It was funny to me at first because I didn’t know I had enough fans for my shit to be bootleggable. Personally, I’m of the mind set that if you have a problem with something you settle it with that person, man to man. You don’t gotta be jumping all over the radio or the internet in this case running your mouth. It’s like any other job, if you have a disagreement with a co worker, that’s not for you to go spreading it all over the job. My biggest problem became when it started seeming as if it was gonna fuck with my paper. At any rate, that’s over now. Everybody knows who I am and what I’m doing and how to holla at me.

Dark 7 Invader: What are you up to when you are not recording?
Darkim Be Allah: Lately just hustling. I haven’t really been hitting the party scene or nothing. I’m type focused right now on survival first and second making something out of what might be my best talent- making music.

Dark 7 Invader: Have you done any collaboration lately as in produced or dropped
vocals with any other artist?
Darkim Be Allah: Nah, I’m really just trying to get this cd out. After that then I can focus on other people’s biz.

Dark 7 Invader: Who would you like to work with now or in future?
Darkim Be Allah: Well there’s only a couple of cats I definitely wouldn’t work with. If we gonna make a banger I’m with it. As far as production, you just gotta pay me something fair and we got a deal.

Dark 7 Invader: How did you link up with Josh Raybuck/ghostface9_texas?
Darkim Be Allah: I’m not sure how but it was when I first started doing the mp3.com thing. And he just stayed in touch.

Dark 7 Invader: After this project, what more can we expect from you or fame labs as in solo and group projects etc?
Darkim Be Allah: If this is successful you can expect at least 3 Fame Labs projects in the next year. A solo from me and AllahWise and another A.I.G album. But within the next couple months you can expect to see us roll out the whole Fame Labs committee. AllahWise solo we looking at March and my solo for July.

Dark 7 Invader: Any tours planned?
Darkim Be Allah: I want to tour but right now I don’t have anything planned. Promoters holla at me.

Dark 7 Invader: Have you been to Europe and will you be interested in touring Europe?
Darkim Be Allah: Never been to Europe but I’d love to come out there. Really like I said I love doing hip hop. So going someplace to play my beats and bust a couple verses is nothing to me. If somebody in Europe sends for me, I’m there.

Dark 7 Invader: I like to say thanks for taking the time to answer these questions, and it is a blessing to have you back in the game, when you were most needed, any last words/shout outs for the fans?
Darkim Be Allah: Yea peace to my brother AllahWise cause he couldn’t be here right now, peace to The Nation of God and Earth, peace to the Bronx and the whole NYC, Josh, Boomer and the rest of the Fame Labs staff, and last but not least all the fans that’s been keeping my name alive and my music in demand. Fame Labs Presents! 11/29.


Support the artist by copping the dope album at  www.famelabsmusic.com


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