Back in 1993 when the single “Protect Ya neck” hit the streets and “Enter the 36 chambers” took the hip hop world over by storm, the fans were only exposed to the initial 9 members of the Wu Tang Clan. It wasn’t till later on that they got to know about the management, the labels, the Wu-Wear , the Killa Beez, Wu Elements and everything else that came in-between. Eventually Wu-Tang became a global success, a movement, a slang, a music style and to some extent a religion or rather a way of life to some. But only very few can actually say they were around during the very beginning of the formation of the phenomena known as Wu-tang. Some of its members are known and some just prefer to stay behind the scene or to be known only within that circle. Lately Wu-International has been interviewing a number of very important persons in series of say "Management", "Powers" and “behind the scenes of the movement”, people for obvious reasons: to get the correct and updated information in regards to Wu-Tang Clan and its running's, directly from the source. Our goal was to reach out to the likes of Power (Wu Wear), Divine and Ray Acousta (Wu Music Group), RZA, Mook (Wu-Tang Management), and the likes of Lil' Free aka General Wah. While the fans might be familiar with the initial names, most would struggle with the last name Lil' Free. So enter the real 37th chamber of Wu-Tang: Free or Lil' Free (who’s mainly known as General Wah) is linked to the very foundation of Wu-Tang. The RZA, GZA/Genius, Ol' Dirty Bastard, Divine and Mook are all his cousins and General Wah was responsible for most of the Clan's early affairs especially in particular to Ghostface Killah whom he managed him during the beginning of his career. A very well known and respected name within the industry and circle, Lil Free has kept out of the limelight for a while now and for a reason, in fact the only reason we have been fortunate to get this exclusive interview is due to him presenting his new protégé and talented artist "Chanel" to the world. Wu-International seized this opportunity to address, ask and discuss everything we have saved over the years for the likes of say RZA as General Wah and Dark 7 Invader have an open dialogue on everything Wu. Due to the length and its content, the interview will be divided into 3 parts. The first part will have General Wah breaking down his experiences managing Ghost and a quick run through the recording and some of the contents of "Supreme Clientele" . Second part will focus on the management side of things, Wu-Tang's rich history and its formation, Killa Beez and affiliation talks as well as the introduction of his new artist . Last but not least part three will be an interview with the upcoming and future star Chanel in which she will take us through her upcoming mixtape "Lets Get It" dropping on the 14th of July, as well as her humble beginnings and so on. So let’s find out … What and who are the names behind the formation of Wu? Did we get a chance to ask most fans favorite questions: who really is a Killa Bee, how and what it means? What about the internal beef ? Do we get a full breakdown of the experience behind recording Ghost's classic album "Supreme Clientele" and did Lord Superb really ghostwrite Supreme Clientele ? Who is this artist called Chanel and what makes her special? ... and The list goes on (basically everything you have really ever wanted to ask from a fan's point of view) but we will be getting it straight from the raw source and no, General Wah does not hold back, personally this is like a Wu-Tang manual Vol. 1.5, so once again sit back, lock yourself in or out for as long as it takes because it’s guaranteed to be a ride none of you have ever been on before. So read, appreciate, take in and learn and enjoy what this iconic figure has got to say..  Enjoy!!

Part 1

I like to say thanks first and foremost for taking the time to answer these questions, highly appreciated, and will also point out that nothing will be altered, edited or changed when this is published online.

Wu-International: You have been referred to as General Wah, can you please share with us more on how the name came about and if there are other names you are known by as well as a little introduction to who you are and why you are only known within the circle as opposed to the fans knowing who you are?
General Wah:  Well most people know me by Lil Free or Free but within the inner circle brothers would call me General Wah. I don’t recall when the name General came about. I didn’t think or make up the name, guess that’s one of my characteristics. Therefore it basically stuck from back then. Other than that I have no other alias.

Be it known myself, Rah (RZA), Unique (ODB), Just (GZA), Vine (Divine) and Mook are all cousins. I was born and raised in Brooklyn (Pink houses, Coney Island, Stuy), then migrated to Staten mid/late 80's. Family was exploring music, then a plan was formulated, and those like minds were determined to start a movement in which we see today. I am not known outside of the circle, due to the fact that I never felt the need to exploit my positioning, I’m there, and I don’t require fans. The members knew who I was, regardless of the foolishness I’ve been thru in them streets, and thru respect we just gelled from that point on. I never played the office like that or stuck to any titles, cause I always had free reign to do whatever I wanted. In the beginning there was Mook, Divine, Power, and myself and the artists. Power was Wu Wear, Vine was exec behind desk, Mook and Myself handled the Clan and even then I wasn't under no this or that titles but regardless I stuck to the law.

Wu-International: Ok, Popa Wu is also know as Freedom Allah, short for free, his son, Freemurda, is also called Lil’ Free, isn’t this a clash on names for those outside the circle?
General Wah:  Yes, I can see it as a clash of names for outsiders, but there’s at least 5 Frees within the family. If we’re talking with each other, and refer to another Free, we still would know who it is. So there was no clash with us.

Wu-International: From our previous conversations, it seems you have a lot to say, personally I think you should write a book, I have learnt quite a lot building with you since we met, you have kept it all in for minute until now, any reason why you agreed to this interview?
General Wah: Well we’re all walking books, and I’ve had that presented to me on numerous occasions, but it wouldn't be on gossip, more on an intellectual basis. To have a platform such as a published book, you use that wisely in my judgement. But on these platforms, it’s not really about a lot to say, as if something’s built up.. It's more "what you got to say”. You asked me formal questions in which I answered, and therefore I also have the stage to present something without complaints, and bent up emotions. This is my history which is engraved in the minds of man, not just from my past, but the here and now and future. That’s what makes this relevant to promote what I’m going to bring to the world and that's a gifted young lady singer/songwriter, named "Chanel" born in Brooklyn, hails in Queens. So that’s my reasoning of this interview. And you got it first.

Wu-International: I did my research and when I asked who you were within the Wu circle, I was told that you were Ghost’s former manager, and that you literally co-birthed “Iron Man”, “Supreme Clientele”, “Bulletproof Wallets, and “Pretty Tony LP”, can you please expand on that and tell us what they meant by that?
General Wah:  You kind of answered it for me Dark7, you heard from within the circle, that I co-birthed those albums and their word from inside should be good. But here it is, we lived those periods, especially during album time, it was a totally different mode. We moved dolo, I always believe the best method for an artist to really be creative you have to change the environment often. We stay in and opened up (Got ‘em known) maaad suite hotels, corporate apartments, bungalow labs, East coast-West coast you name it, having breakfast, what have you on a roof top pool deck in a 5 star, fruit basket exotic and colorful, got the CD radio, with whatever song being worked on, he got his dart book. Ladies splashin looking like dolphins, in the pool, sun beaming, maid scrubbin your balls type shit, word up! what type of darts would you think going to come out? In one city with a style, next some where else, flip the script, rockin turbins. That's why there were extended gaps, between LPs, cause it took time. What the labels saying, just come back with that cookie homie, cause we know its cooking, and when the finished products came, their tummies were full just like everybody else’s was. So co-birth it, why of course. That wasn't wasted leisure; we spent countless hours in studios, and didn't play that dosing off stuff and that's when you really can see who can stomach studio time especially back then when you lock out days.. We inspired each other, I take no credit in his hand, he delivered y'all the goods. I'm just one who was in the kitchen, giving my undivided attention and ear, and co-signing what products are going out.

So with the good, believe there’s risk also with claiming something, cause if all those albums were flops, then what? First thing first, you look for the person who was with him that co-sign junk!!. Fortunately that wasn't the case, and the work was respected amongst the peers within the game and likewise the fans. So yeah, I burped some babies.

Wu-International: Since managing Ghost and being around some of the recording sessions for some of the albums, can you please share some of the highlights, behind the scene stories, memorable moments during the recording of the classic album “Supreme Clientele”?
General Wah:  There were many, far too many to disclose like that. Things you keep under your topknot. Everyday was like a video shoot, word up, so movements were highlight, show boating, back is big but I'll give you one…

Here’s a twilight zone adventure….
driving to Downtown L.A. going to a jewellery spot, get there no problem followed the directions, was smooth. To pick up a ring, he had shipped from NYC. (and to let folks know bout the jewellery game, jewellers get their goods from Cali, then wherever else they jack the prices, and your man acting like he crafted it, but he only paid sucka change for it..naw homies!!)
- but anyway when me and Roni rolled up in the gate, the dude working there was mad jumpy, talkin fast, and was escorting us out, next door to where he had his ring and what not. So we lookin at each other , like what’s good with scrams? So we moving up in building, waitin on elevator, this dude in front of me had some weird wire, connected to the back of his neck, going down under the back of his shirt... We peeping this dude, and word life, he look like he was plastic or some crazy shit. On some "they live" shit.. So we keeping cool, just get our shit and boogie. . But when we get the ring, Tone put it on, then it was like something stung or burnt him, and he flung the ring off his finger. I’m like oh shit, what happened dun? he don’t know;. So he wrap the joint up real quick, and we walked out..all I knew was gravity feel like it was pulling us down, like we got zapped and we were walking shoulder to shoulder as if holding ourselves up, mind you Tone’s mad taller than me. Everything went slow motion, straight up. No funny shit... But we looking at the car we had parked directly cross the street, with our assistant holding it down, saying get into the car, get to the car, but it took forever to get there, like our feet was dragging, as if I was 1000lbs or something. When we get to the car, I’m driving so when I open door, he gets in through drivers side to get to the back seat, mind you its a four door. Tanya looking at us, like damn! what’s up with yall niggas? I pull off, but now I’m going in circles through LA City, couldn’t find a way out, but crazy easy getting there.

When we finally got on the highway, and we pushed some miles from city, I’m looking through rear view mirror, and word both of us shook our heads . As if you snapped outta something. It felt like releasing a tight baseball cap from your head, like the blood flow back in, and rubbing my head and we was like yooooooooooo, sun, wtf just happened? Tanya looking at dude sideways, she don’t know nothing, and while driving I think he summed it up best. "we were on unholy grounds”, and I bear witness. The energy was on another level, the current threw us off balance, didn’t know how to walk, sense of timing was off, but all in meantime in our heads, get to the car and boogie, bottom-line, figure shit out later. And to top it off, to really show how shit be happening! When we go back to the crib, and we had a few brothers come through, cause we all had spots, we start to tell Deck, and I think U-God was there, what happened........ Why deck going to say he was with us??! And told it blow for blow what happened! When I damn well know it was me, Tone, and Tanya only how the hell he gonna know that and we just came back from it? Like I said he wasn’t there and we arguing about it, that he wasn’t, but he knew the whole shit, straight up.. We all just looked at each other and said fuck it, leave it alone!

And what’s so ill about it, cause then dudes that live out there was saying a lot of brothers don’t make it out from the city area, they be testing sound waves and things of that nature.. get zapped. Shit that dumbs you out... Word up? How true or false.. I know what we felt, and I love Cali word up. Don’t stop anything though, that was some X-files, twilight zone story and dudes weren’t high either, you don’t smoke that good shit early in the day, hell no. You won’t get anything done. So dudes were straight. UFO's couldn’t walk up in here.

Wu-International: Thanks for that, still on “Supreme Clientele” many view it as a hip-hop classic to date, alongside the likes of say Nas' “Illmatic”, Biggie’s “Ready 2 die", Rae's “OB4CL", etc, so we are going to talk a little about it especially as you were around during some of the recording, will start off with the initial Canadian version being different from the retail version released worldwide, songs like "In The Rain (wise)', 'Impossible" etc,  do you know how this mistake came to be and are there some songs that were also left out that you would like to share with us please?

Wu-International: Thanks for those answers, I read somewhere that Ghost went to Africa with Rza, was it in Nigeria for a couple of weeks to build and record an album, not sure if it was “Supreme”, but can you tell us more about this and if you were there when this happened?
General Wah:  That’s not my place to speak on, that’s the men’s business. That’s a spiritual trip.

Wu-International: Let's chat about “Clyde smith skit”, most say it was directed at 50 Cent for the diss song he made at that time towards some of the clan members?
General Wah:  On that occasion I wasn't there. I was meditating. Never took it serious upon hearing it from either side. All are hungry brothers in the game, we all in the same arena. I never saw it pass grumblin’, so it didn't matter. He was talking about everybody and their momma in the game at that time, Lol. That nigga set out to get his position and solidify it and showed and proved.

Wu-International:  Ok, Was there any real story behind "Woodrow the Basehead" skit?
General Wah:  Woodrow skits and basically all skits were top of the 9th inning when they would add them in, and at that time I was meditating and was not around.

Wu-International: There was reference to your name on the song “We made it" as in coming home soon and so on, what was that shout out about?
General Wah:  Well during the process of Supreme, about 3/4 of it recorded, my ticket got served to have bigheads in my face, stemming from some talk, that ultimately fell under an eyeball.. no matter whether if it was meant for me, or not, it happened and I was faced with decisions to make. I decided to eat that., bottom line. No cry baby or glorifying any bids, brothers need to come home! Who, what, where, don't matter, all you know, after I sat down, bighead went to sniffing else where.

So when I did hear the track, I already knew what time its was, they stopped hella heavy moves; Tone and I, had on tables!! Righteous and strong, and to continue the momentum Starks enterprises set out to do. So regardless of man down, "We made it"!!! My bro know.

Wu-International: The production was flawless, RZA was at his prime, The Wu-Elements as they were known then did their thing too, a producer that had a number of joints on there was 6th July, was he part of The Elements, and what ever happened to him?
General Wah:  I’ll get to other producers, but I would like to point out a fact, that's always seems to be over looked when mentioned of producers. Ra is amongst a small hand full of producers, who produced entire albums from start to finish consistently, critical acclaimed joints like that in a short time span. I’m not talking about having a few singles on anybodies album and it blows, and if you are lucky it was your single, next you're a super producer. Crowns get passed around all day in this game, I’m not taking about any production team, where you got 10 dudes submitting track and niggas skim through what they want and stamped produced by Blazzy Blue from there to now, in that process of time to reinvent himself is just another blue print. As for 6th July, I don’t know what he was apart of, with Elements.. He made beats and so forth, but where about, don't know. Wish him well.

Wu-International: Did RZA custom make those beats on the spot for Ghost, or made it before Ghost came into the studio, hand picked beat for Ghost from other producers? Trying to figure out what the whole creative process was like working with Ghost, and RZA mainly as well as the other Clan members?
General Wah:  When myself, Ra, and Starks use to live in the one bedroom apartment in Stapleton, kung-fu flicks, Nintendo Tecmo bowl, and Ra had his machine, two turntables on a crate with records in ‘em, not any big set up or nothing, and always remember, when dudes come through MC, (a tib bit; at that time Rae and Ra had did a tape, Ghost had some joints out). One of my favorites was "Dont Go against the grain" with him and "Pop the Brown Hornet", shit “After the laughter “ was a collabo with Ghost/Ra from back then. Deck was always vicious, he don’t play! Meth, with the Joe Joe the monkey darts and smash shit, but Ra, as I can look at it was in all actuality more than a mere producer, as a per say role. He was an A&R also, which basically develops an artist and he knew how to home in on each ones skills, and talents and delete the weaknesses, in there rhythm formatting and delivery. Of course everyone knew how to rhyme but that doesn’t make an MC....! So I believe it was only natural and simple to make beats to cater to the clan. It was a matter of who heard it and jumped on it, if you were there ok, if not that it is what it is, cause mind you there’s more than enough members to fill any gaps and everybody wolfin' to bust dartz. So it was entertaining seeing the process, and being able to throw my 2 cents in there, cause I was never no yes man.. Gotta let dudes have it, LOL…

Wu-International: A lot to talk about as well in regards to Starks Enterprises, but when it comes to SC the most questions the fans want to know about is that of Lord Superb’s involvement, he has personally claimed to ghostwrite for Ghost and goes on to claim credit for the styles, lyrics and so on displayed on SC, since you were around the recording, can you please shed some light to this and if any of these statements are true?
General Wah:  This is simple, before you pay any mind to what someone say, you have to get a grip where their mind state is at. Perb, was moving with Power and Raes "American Cream Team.". Whatever his reasons were is their business, but when he migrated closer to Tone, of course he came with luggage of belly aching talk, which always seizes to amaze me, dudes bounce around from this general to that, then have feelings on your sleeves about whatever, When at same time we all sit at table and build. In any case he definitely gravitated to Tone, plus Tone is infamous for his generosity. Dudes wasn’t on no stingy stuff. Perb has plenty energy, and was talented without a question! but at same time he saw opportunity. As I have stated before things were poppin hard. We def had the magnetic piece, and saying it in a sense that rub off on this shit yall. We all gonna get it. So things are appealing. Now look, if you listen to SC carefully, of course you will hear like say in “We made it", it was heavily influences by Superb, as well as the skits. In so as much, both his and Tone flow and style are exact.....(do you fans bear witness?) Perb wrote that entire rhyme, and Ghost did his part in exact tone and style as Perb! Then he talk the rest of way on it. Am I to believe now that, cause that set up was done, warrants or even put it in the category of "ghost-writing" for someone?

Who can rightfully in their right mind tell me Ghost could ever have someone write the shit he says?! When at same time you on the track, but obviously whoever else is on it is matching your exact way. (for MC’s especially when you do a tight bar verse duet with someone, its basically one written rhyme. The artists just break it up, however they could to go back and forth) same concept folks.

Wu-International: So you are saying he didn’t? personally I did not believe he wrote SC for Ghost, figured he must have been an inspiration, but had to ask as none of us were really there except for the artists involved, why then do you think Perb would make such a claim?
General Wah:  Now back to his reasoning behind his boast, there is none but his own. He saw opportunity. No matter right or wrong, he got in, fitted in, and exited.. While everyone else asking what happen who did what, I goes to the root, of it. You always had a hidden agenda because it showed and proved.. Look at his actions. Why would you say this? for monetary value? to boost your creditability as a rapper? That was foolish!! cause he never saw the true value to begin with to even "get" on a track, and album period! That was your blessing and approval as a MC, therefore, if you gonna walk, walk with praise from your lips. That that man embraced, feed, clothed him as a brother, as we all were, we all ate good food, stayed fly, and had supreme harmony. So like I said, get a grip on a man’s mentality state before you take their words to heart. So please lay that to bed and lets focus on the future. There is no response to this!

Wu-International: Thanks, Ok, so you no longer manage Ghostface Killah, any reason why and what is your current relationship with Ghostface?
General Wah:  No I haven't managed Ghost since 2004-5. I basically lost all interest of the music world through no fault of his or anything around us. It was more on my personal attitude toward the music business in general. As for me and Roni relationship, that's my brother, we can never have any bad differences or fall outs with each other over nothing! We've been through way to much. I spoke to him a few weeks ago, for a few hours, laughing our asses off about mad shit. No matter how long we may not see each other, our ESP is there regardless.

Wu-International: Good to know, We will also come back to more details on that, but lets round up on the Ghostface questions, there were various labels within Wu at the time like Razor Sharp, PYN etc, Starks Enterprise was one the fans never really got to experience fully, were you part of this and can you please tell us more about this chamber and the people that were involved in it?
General Wah:  Roni and myself juggling the name Starks Enterprises during the bullet proof wallets album on Sony. We were very displeased with the building, and at that point really needed to get out that situation, because they didn’t have a strong rap department, and honestly never knew how to properly market Ghost. They always pumped critically acclaimed LPs, which didn’t translate into sales. Even on the Bullet LP, there was hella mix ups with track listings, song didn’t make it due to sample clearances. Man it was a mess. Bullet had that shit, but once it got chopped up, and nothing we could do about it, the life went out of it.. So we were both very displeased with it.. During this time serious decisions had to be made, so went into free agency mode.. Various labels reached out, numbers were cool, but not enough. (Iron’s appetite is big, and its my job to get that) his value was still in the hills but labels always found a way to take 1 zero out. Long saga short, I knew a lot of bigheads, but I don’t be in folks face like that, so it had to get narrowed down...I gave Lyor a call over at Def Jam, I always remembered every time I see him and Kevin, he always gave me the elbow, like “yooo, what you wanna dooo? I love Ghost, what you wanna do?” but back then couldn’t really make that move cause Razor Sharp had it’s deal through Sony and Sony’s beefin about who what.. Thinking bout it now he was just putting his bid in early cause he knew at some point we gonna move. But any case, when the call was made, we all rapped for a couple of days, set up an appointment within that week we sat, everything was straight talk, he asked what we wanted, I pulled out a raggedy paper I had in my back pockets, of the list points we wanted.. We went through it in 4 hours we were on Def Jam. So within the structure of Ghost’s situation, he signed through Stark’s Ent. Which in turn funnels acts we had which was Theodore Unit (Trife, No Smiles, Klien etc).

Peace to Lyor Cohen.. he's passionate about music and I can accredit that he had schooled me on something’s, about the music business.

Wu-International: Ok, so who else was part of Starks Enterprise apart from Theodore Unit members, I ask as I read on a forum that JoJo Pelligrino was once part of Stark’s Enterprise? Is this true and who else was on it?
General Wah:  Wow I forgot about Wigs, he's apart of Theodore Unit also in addition to the ones already listed (Childs, Cap, Trife, No Smiles, Klein) After I moved on in 05, I can't vouch for any additions if any but as for Jojo, P was always a busy mc doing his thing, we never locked him in within Stark enterprises, he is though a very talented artist.

Wu-International:  What is the current situation of Theodore unit and how involved are you?
General Wah:  This is some what like last question I already answered, don’t know status, and I’m not involved with any affairs of that nature.

Wu-International: Ok, thanks.. you said all ghost's album were different due to the location, vibe and so on around them, which out of ghost's album is your favourite and why?
General Wah:  My personal favourite album is “Iron man" what you doing on our turf punk? got a message for smokey..! Lol, though I love em all, but when you really know how much energy and soul was put out into something to then see it get stripped, it hurts man.. It like having mad babies, then find out, a few of the lil niggas u got aint yours, but you been holding em down since day one, it hurts! All the albums went through that, but Iron Man and SC and I would say Pretty Toney LPs withstood the shack up. I’ma stick with Iron Man, just from start to finish it was laid down perfect! One of a kind!

Wu-International:  I also enjoyed Iron Man even though most people caught on with Ghost only on SC, there is an artist on SC that fans have been curious about that resurfaced on U-God’s last abum; Scotty Wotty; he was featured on wildflower alongside Jammie Sommers, not much is know of him, who is he and where does he fit in within the Wu, some say he inspired a lot of Cappadonna's slangs?

General Wah:  Yeah I know look at the time spread between Iron and Supreme, cause Iron was within that 3 years span of Liquid, Cuban, and Return to the 36. So the fans tummies were fat.. They couldn’t digest all that.. Lol.. Scooty been around hella long time, him, Rza, Cap, them dude be getting down, rhyming and what not, you would always hear mentions of him. I personally didn’t know him like that, Scotty Wotty, and if I’m correct he was a DJ, and back in them days that’s the nigga who got the juice. When you say where does he fit in with the Wu.. I think that’s the problem in general, cause if anybody does something with a Clan member, folks try fitting them in.. Where? (now it goes right back to ok, put ‘em affiliates, Beez,) LOL… You see what I'm saying?

Wu-International: Ok rounding off first part of this interview you must have a stack of songs that might not have been released to date from Wu-tang clan and its members in your archives if you ever kept one, can you tell us of some of the songs that stick out most for you and if it will ever see the day of lights via you or via the members?
General Wah:  No I don’t have any. That’s stealing! Songs don’t fall on the floor. Not being used doesn’t mean, its mine to claim and put in my stash... Masters are in the main vault. Not my business.

See that was a good question Mike, and I’ma point out to you why there’s always beefs in the game in general off of that what u asked.. When some ones recording, its the artist, engineer, handler, and producer if they on the set. When shits getting made, who claims what? Especially if the song doesn’t have a purpose at that moment.. See the handler can lay claim, cause he paid for session. Artist can claim cause it was his vocals, producer cause he made the beat, but you got the engineer, who aint saying nothing cause while yall fools is beating your gums about it, he already made the transfers to wherever. Fast forward however many years later... Oh shit here’s that same song, that had no purpose at the time somebody had it, now its out, is that person the rightful person to have it? Henceforth you have problems!!

Wu-International: So let’s go back to your involvement as a manager, Mook had PYN and WTM, you said you managed the whole Clan with Mook, what exactly did you do as far as managing them and how was this duty split between yourself and Mook?
General Wah:  Mook has various management companies, but like stated once before, I wore no hats. I wasn’t signed to any mgt contracts, his or any other... I’m built in and I’m within the system of things.

No other way better to answer that manage duties consist from A-Z. When you deal, there’s 2 paperworks... Office paper and brick and moltar paper. Everyone plays whatever lane. I hardly be at the desk, from all the gates we had, since Bay street. I was on the move, least travelling 8-9 months out the year, living in corporate apartments all over the place, touring, and studio sessions. So duties were in abundant. That’s how we all lived in this, no one was ever motionless and we all learned, more from our journeys regardless the immediate knows our times were. Times that made us grow as a unit, doing things you once imagined, now you doing it, but not by yourself, but experiencing that with your crew.

Wu-International: Our early conversations you said it was just you, Mook, Divine, Power and the artists before everyone else came along? How did the rest fall in place like the likes of Popa Wu, who were the first outside the circle to come and how did they get down with the Wu?
General Wah:  Yes, of course… All mentioned above, I’m right there. I'm not standing outside no room, on some meat head shit. There isn’t no entourage, naw I’m on the set. I’m in tune with this, that and the third, many positions! Our business.... So I never wore any titled hat. I had free reign, but stuck to law. Its only logical of course, each have whomever running with them, can also state the part they played, and you have the various young ladies and men who worked in the office, so no discredit to all those people, but I’m talking day to day, living this shit, its going all in time, with it... it was a great conscious decision, and say I’m in, lets do it.. part don’t matter... Be it.... Duties was per say simple, cause I already had a rapport with every member, they all knew I came from Brooklyn, was Ra and Vine’s cuz and whatever foolishness I been involved in them streets. Through all mutual respect everything just was, word.. and fairly note in them times nobody got close like that. How we move, we be on the road, so forth there was no outside management team and all that, just us and all them niggas! Lol. I’m laughing cause I remember when we tried recruiting dudes, shit the dudes didn’t last a hot few days. The problem was they got too familiar with my brothers, cause they would see how we talk with them or what have you, but then they turn around do it, next you know, something done happened, but I never had that problem, I accredit that to brothers knew regardless, we roll out, do our thing, I’m up and I do my job. We're all responsible for each others, but their duty is to be the best they can be, and likewise in my position. We rolled well as time is moving fast everybody starting to get there own situations, shit cracking. Too many heads, more man-power.

Now Popa Wu, is our older cousin and was always enlightening us, he began handling Meth, I’m with Rae/Ghost one moment, then this member and vice versa. Mook do what he do, I do what I do, Pop do what he do, Vine doing what he do, Pow do what he do…. shit we all workers.. We all know what it is, cause there’s itineraries etc.. Be out, get bread! Pillage this shit. We all knew what the mission was! It was a movement, it became reality. You just cant express that feeling! all the order of people whom was apart of this, no matter. There’s many here, and gone.. and will be in future.

Wu-International: Wu-Tang has to be the biggest, most respected hip-hop group ever, did you ever envision that the clan would expand from a family collective of friends to worldwide phenomena that it is today? General Wah:  At the time you see a vision of what you inspire to be. My bros mc, that’s a passion, it wasn’t a thought

Thanks for the all the answer Free, We will have to continue this priceless schooling and building tomorrow with the second part as well as one from your protégé Chanel herself, thanks for the time and more

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