The 5% teachings is very
popular in today's hip-hop, known mainly as the Nations Of
Gods and Earths, Hip hop greats such as Big Daddy Kane,
Brand Nubian, Poor Righteous Teachers, Wu-Tang Clan,
just to name a few have used some of the ideology's in their
rhymes and music. Another ideology that has been ignored is
that of the Nuwaubian influence on the hip-hop culture, very
well made visible by The Lost Children Of Babylon.
I once heard someone say Nu-wop,
while LCOB might not be the first ones known for heavily
using Dr. York's teachings, they currently stand in the fore
front. By the time hip hop started taking off, Dr. York was
already a prominent teacher of alternative black cultural
knowledge, working extensively with young people. He was
also an active musician and producer (played disco/r&b),
with knowledge of the industry and access to studio
Doug E. Fresh and Afrika Bambaataa were among the old-schoolers
who benefited from Doc’s guidance, according to the
teacher’s adopted son, Tariq L., of the Atlanta-based duo
the Hemisphere… “I just happen to be Nuwaubian,” says Tariq.
“It’s not like I’m telling the world, ‘You got to be one.’”
That attitude is common among Nuwaubians in hiphop. So the
teachings are a lot less prominent in rap lyrics than, say,
Five Percent Nation lessons, which tend more toward the
directive… Posdnuos from De La Soul… has been down with the
Nuwaubians for years, but his rhymes lend De La fans nary a
clue. Prodigy from Mobb Deep, among the most respected of
active rhyme writers, revealed in an interview some time
back that he adopted a strict vegan diet on advice culled
from Dr. York’s books, which he recommended to a fan with
questions about nutrition. One of the best independent
hiphop album of the modern era, MF Doom’s Operation:
Doomsday, has on its back cover a photo of the artist and
his late brother and KMD partner, Subroc, at the upstate New
York Nuwaubian facility. It is not labeled as such.
Amongst the indie hip hop
ranks you have Nuwaubians who perform what they call Nu-wop,
such as Daddi Kuwsh, Twinity, Nefu Amun Hotep, 9thScientist,
Scienz Of Life, Ntelek, and Lost Children Of Babylon to name
Together, they made an album rife with quotes from The
Matrix and rhymes about ancient Egypt, outer space and
chromosomes, all laid over futuristic/sci-fi beats that seem
transplanted from other worlds. It’s really much more than a
musical creation; it represents a new, somewhat complicated
teaching called Nuwaubu (new-ah-boo). “You can dance to our
music,” Rasul Allah explains of the group’s aim, “but it’s
strictly to stimulate certain latent forces inside your
chromosomes.” going on to say "When I came into contact with
another form of knowledge and enhanced my consciousness, I
wanted to start spreading that as a form of message, through
sound and words and music." Of the mix of spirituality and
hip-hop, Kemite claims, "It’s the new evolution of hip-hop.
Wu-International had the
privilege of talking to Richard Raw and
LCOB about past catalogue and the new album, The United
Nuwaubian Nation Of Moors, Wu-Tang, and hip-hop in general.
Question: Peace, How are you?
Richard Raw: I feel good, just staying busy.
Question: Rasul Allahu, what’s good?
Rasul Allah: I’m doing ok, hopefully our albums will sell.
Question: We're just going to dive into the questions,
please let us know who the Lost Children Of Babylon are?
Richard Raw: The lost children are Richard Raw, Rasul Allahu,
Breath Of Judah, Ancient Kemit, Atun Sen Geb, Cosmic Crusader,
and Amun Sen Hotep Re!!!!!!
From left to right: Ancient Kemite, DJ Ghetto, Rasul,
DJ Man E, Niz Da Phyz, B. Jesus 2000, Cosmic
Crusader and Shamash: The Ninth Elder.
Question: How was the group formed and how did everyone meet?
Richard Raw: The group was formed by Rasul Allahu. Originally
lost children were just Rasul Allahu, kemit and Judah. Rasul
came to one of my shows because I released a record of
landspeed back in 2000 called America. We were only to do a
few songs but he just told me I was a part of the group and
that’s how it happened.
Question: Rasul, you being the founder, could you please add
on to this, how long has the group been in existence and how
has it evolved to its current roster of MC's, producers etc?
Rasul Allah: The LCOB is a group of apostles that form a
council of nine, we are from the United Nuwaubian Nation of
Moors, and LCOB consists of Rasul Allah (Verbal Terrorist), Rich
Raw (Tehuti Mos), Cosmic Crusader (Quetzalcoatl), Ancient
Kemet (Lyrical Alchemist), Amun Sen Hotep-Re, Atun Sen-geb (The
Elohim), and Stretch The Mad Scientist. We have been around since
the late '90's.
Question: And is everyone in the group from Philadelphia?
Rasul Allah: Yes
Question: Is there a meaning to the name “Lost Children Of
Babylon”? Why lost?
Rasul Allah: Well the name is a metaphor, it implies that we
of the most high lost in Babylon (America)
Richard Raw: As you know America is the new Babylon. We who
represent the voice of the children are lost in the midst of
Question: Spiritual hip hop? the media has
group as this, how would you describe LCOB type of music?
Rasul Allah: I see LCOB as having an Esoteric and Psychedelic
Spirituality is inherited in it because of the subject matter
that is being spoken about.
Question: You also go by the name Lost children of Egypt, but
everyone is used to LCOB, any other names/aliases that you use? And why did
you try to change it?
Rasul Allah: No, We used LCOE because the supreme grand master
Dr. Malachi Z.York-EL asked us to use LCOE for our second album
Of the Duat) which has a more Egyptian-based view that ties in
Richard Raw: We never sought to change the name LCOB, the lost
children of egipt was to represent our alter egos. The second
album words of the duat was a much different sounding album
for us. We were trying to go a step above the equidivium. I
still think people weren’t ready for it.
Question: How did you meet with Jedi Mind Tricks to work on
Rasul Allah: This is a good question and I’m glad you asked.
The story goes like this, after I met Killah Priest and the
Sunz of man back in 94 they told me that we needed to put
together a demo, at the time LCOB was a group but we didn’t
have any material. When I went to Philly I began to compose
my scrolls, I got this call one night from a friend saying
"His Friend (Vinnie) wants to do some songs with you" at the
time they were in a group but weren’t called Jedi mind tricks
yet. So I met up with them, and I began teaching them the
ancient science of Nuwaupu, previously Paz was studying the
hare krishna culture so he related to the teachings, we were
discussing on collaborating on a spiritual - based album like
the sunz of man, We began working on some tracks.
Question: There were
rumours of a rift between you, the group and Jedi Mind
Tricks in the past, is this true and could you please shed
more light on this?
Rasul Allah: The reason why a
rift began is because individuals in the street were talking
negatively about Vinnie, because he was rhyming about 5%,
NOI ,and Nuwaupu lessons, and being that he was white people
didn’t accept it at first and I was caught in the middle of
it being a student myself. People, they thought I was the
one saying those things when I wasn’t. So at the time we
parted ways to further cause no more tension. I personally
don’t know what took place with Jus Allah so I can’t comment
on that situation, But all in all JMT and LCOB ARE IN GOOD
Ancient Kemite, Wazulu & Rasul Allah
Question: There have been debates online about LCOB
being the founders of spiritual hip-hop, what is your claim or view
Richard Raw: There have been many that have pioneered
spiritual hip-hop. I personally think it got its start with
Brother J of X-Clan. The Gravediggaz took it a step further. So
we did not start spiritual hip-hop. We go more deep than
others but no, Peace to professor x and brother j of x clan.
Question: What influences or inspires your music personally
and that of the group?
Richard Raw: I am influenced by what I see. I try to write
from the heart. I have read so many books, I don’t read no
more, I am trying to live and practice what I already know. We
are all inspired by each other.
Question: Your lyrics draw influences from numerous sources
that of the Nuwaubian philosophy, Islam, Nations of the Gods
and Earths, etc Do you follow any religion or science?
Rasul Allah: Yes, I am A Sufi-Muslim, from the Sufi order of
the Suns of the Green Light, I am also part of various masonic
Question: The CNN once described "The Nuwaubian philosophy to
include elements of Christianity, ancient Egyptian polytheism
and a belief in unidentified flying objects (UFOs)." What is
your take on this?
Richard Raw: Nuwaubu is an ancient science practiced by the
being we call the pygmy... As you know eve of the genesis
story came from this tribe who were considered the earliest
inhabitants of this planet. They practiced a way of life
called nuwaubu (the science of sound right reasoning) all
religions and ways of life came from this including the so
called egiptian philosophy. As you know Christianity and Islam
has roots in egipt. So all is inclusive. That’s why they can’t
pinpoint us. Nuwaubu is not a religion it’s more of a
Rasul Allah: First of all I don’t believe in any UFO's because
itself is illogical. The reason why you see various religious
within the nuwaubu philosophy is because we are rewriting
Christism, Judaism, Muhhamadism, all come from the Ancient
Question: Thanks, So
Rasul when and why did you start searching for the right
Rasul Allah: I was raised a Muslim and I would attend the
madras, I would always question the Quran, and so I was
reprimanded. Finally I was introduced to the teaching of Dr.
Malachi Z York around ‘93 that lead me into the principles of
sound right reasoning.
Ok, Moving on, there was a logo of Sunz Of Man on your first album,
and also a recent press release claimed you had an affiliation
with Wu-Tang Clan’s Sunz Of Man, Is this true? If so please
tell us how you are affiliated?
Richard Raw: We actually snuck behind stage of a sunz of man
concert years back. We rhymed for them and killah Priest took
a liking to us. We have kept in contact with them ever since.
Rasul Allah: Yes, we are affiliated with Sunz of Man, Killarmy,
and the rest of the killabess. The first affiliate that I met
was 4th disciple and Budda Monk (ODB’s brother), he then
introduced me to 9th prince (the madman) who then introduced
me to killah priest. And we have been tight ever since.
Question: So would you consider yourself to be
affiliated with the bigger family of the Wu-Tang Clan?
represent truth justice and equality. Wu-tang is for the
children and we are the lost children who they were trying
to reach. So we grew up listening to our elders and we are
ready to stand with our big brothers. Rest in peace to ODB!!!!!
From right to left: Cosmic Crusader, Rasul Allahu, Richard
Raw, Killah Priest & Amun Sen Hotep Re
Question: Have the
group worked with Sunz Of Man or their members on any songs
and are there any plans for further collaboration in a song
Richard Raw: Actually, I just
recorded a song with Killah Priest called baby Israel, its
one of the craziest songs ever!!!!!!!!!! Me and Rasul just
recorded a song with Killah Priest and Hell Razah called
March. We are working real close with them these days. The
lost children of Babylon just did a show with killah priest
Question: Will there ever be a Sunz Of Man / LCOB album?
Rasul Allah: Yes there will be a future lcob/sunzofman collabo.
Hell Razah and killah priest are working on a project called
the premix ...so look out for that ...produced by Ahmad and
Jesse for Bombshell recordings..
Question: Who else in the Wu-tang family tree are you or the
members of the group close to?
Rasul Allah: We’re cool with the whole fam, but we’re closest
with Priest and
Question: What else as in groups/religion etc are the LCOB
affiliated or linked to?
Rasul Allah: We study Nuwaupu,
which doesn’t bind us to one religion, we are students and
teachers of all philosophies and cultures
Question: Please tell us about
all 3 albums released by LCOB?
Rasul Allah: Our first record “The Equidivium" takes you on a
philosophical spiritual journey through theology math, and
metaphysics. Then “Words from the duat” is taking you on a
darker journey yet with the same subject matter. Our most
recent record the 911 report deals strictly with today’s
issues around the world and in politics....
Question: The albums
were initially released independently and they sold very well, It is to date one of the highest sellers on eBay, You have fans in Europe, Asia and worldwide
who would pay big box to get a hold of your CDs, why do you think this is so
and do you think the internet is the future of album releases
Richard Raw: We are one of the last groups to maintain a
spiritual twist to our music. So when people have access to it
they don’t mind paying for what is almost extinct. There are a
lot of people across the waters that love LCOB. Being we are
not able to get there physically, we get there though our
music via internet. So having a strong hold on the net is a
must. This is the future of hip-hop.
Rasul Allah: The reason is because people want to hear
something different, consciousness is rising in hip hop and
people realizing the artistic talent in LCOB and are drawn to
Question: LCOB have done well selling out most of your albums
independently, why did you hook up with babygrande to
re-releasing all 3 albums again?
Rasul Allah: Well we tried to sign with babygrande 2 years ago
but for some reason, I think there was someone in the
background telling Chuck Wilson (CEO) not to sign us...we
probably would’ve sold more records if we would’ve signed
then. But we are proud to be a part of the Babygrande team.
Question: How did you get involved with Babygrande
Richard Raw: Babygrande always knew about us because of the
Jedi mind tricks album. We actually were out in LA and we sent
Chuck Wilson a copy he replied back to us and the rest is
history... You know a lot of people are pissed because we are
on baby Grande. STOP THE HATING!!!!!!!!!!!!! Chuck recognizes
real talent period point blank!!!!!
Question: Will “The Appendices: The Scroll of lost tales”
album ever be released and on what label?
Rasul Allah: yes, it will be released through babygrande
executively produced by Killah priest look for that by the end
Question: The group is always linked to Jedi Mind Tricks and
right now you are all on the same label, Babygrande, Can the
fans expect any collaboration with Jedi Mind Tricks or even
Jus Allah in the near future?
Rasul Allah: Yes .. definitely
Richard Raw: We are open to work with anybody. I think if we
collaborated with JMT it would be groundbreaking for
underground hip-hop. I never recorded with Vinnie but I always
was open to do work with him and stoup. I got love for Vinnie
shit he is the one who got me my first vinyl deal... I will
try to make that happen, I will sit down with them and smooth
out the ruff edges so we can bring back that classic shit.
Please tell us about your last album “The 911 Report
– The Ultimate Conspiracy” Is there, if any, a
meaning behind the title?
The title should be self explanatory. We actually
did the sound track to Michael Moores Fahrenheit 911 being the
fuck didn’t want to put no real hip-hop shit on there!!!!
TRUTH IS TRUTH
Question: Being a fan of your music, I already own all 3
albums and there are great albums that get constant spins on
my ipod, I think 911 album is more
political than spiritual compared to the other albums, Is
there any reason for this?
Richard Raw: I actually suggested that we do this album. I
wanted to diversify our audience. We always would talk about
the truth behind why 911 happened, we just put it to music. We
also had to prove that we could do more that just spiritual
hip-hop we are also political.
Question: Where were you on September 11th, 2001? How did you
deal with it? How do you think it has affected Hip-hop?
Richard Raw: I was home sleeping when it happened. Dr. Malachi Z
York already warned that this was going to happed years ago so
it was not a surprise. I don’t think it really affected hip-hop.
It happened to affect the economy.
Rasul Allah: I was sleeping, my friend called me and told me
to turn on the TV, when I saw the buildings had been
attacked... and my grandma said "they took the buildings".
Question: The artworks on your album covers are very unique
any album covers out there, The 911 report is quite a
controversial cover, do you not think this might hinder sales
of the album?
Rasul Allah: Not at all, if anything it would help sales, if
you really look
at the cover, it is not demeaning in anyway. The flag isn’t
burning or is not upside-down, what people see is the fire
burning, but they saw the buildings explode on TV. The cover
in itself is a symbol of a dictating force that is governing
people. They say Muslims are terrorists when it’s really
America that is terrorist.
Question: What would you say are some major misconceptions
that people have about the group?
Rasul Allah: one of the biggest misconceptions is that all we
rap about is
aliens and space ships. If you really listen to the words we
really speak on subjects that relate to theology, Egyptology,
metaphysics, and Physics.
Richard Raw: People put us in a
box, if we do something
beyond what they think we are capable of, they trying to say we
are confused. Also they think we are real militant. You should
get to know us and talk to us. We won’t fuck you up if you
don’t provoke us to!!!!!!!
Question: The internet
has aided a lot of hip-hop activities globally, do you think the
net has affected or
Rasul Allah: I think the internet has helped greatly. We need
to learn how to utilize the internet to better our business,
if it wasn’t for the internet we probably would not be
Question: On a more personal level, do any of the members of LCOB have any solo projects out apart from yourself Richard, as
I know you have a solo album out?
Richard Raw: Yes Rasul will be working
on his solo album this
year. Look for cosmic crusader next year. And I think atun sen
hotep is finished.
Rasul Allah: Yes I am currently working on a solo project
entitled Bear Witness: The Ghetto Quran, Rich Raw is working
on two projects: Word to the Wize vol.2 and The Quill, and
Cosmic Crusader’s project is called Cosmic-Calculations.
Question: Richard Raw, You have been busy, tell us about your
album, mixtapes, upcoming album, and Headlinerz Ent?
Richard Raw: My first album is called
MY CITY. I have about 6 mixtape waiting to be released. The latest is word to the wize
pre-album mixtape volume 2. Log onto WWW.HEADLINERZENT.COM.
Headlinerz is my own company, we are getting ready to start a
Question: You first outing “My City:
A Place Where Somebody Can Nobody” was quite decent,
diverse, and contained vast
topics and versatility, would you say the solo ventures allows
you to cover certain topics you would not otherwise cover on a LCOB album?
Richard Raw: Yes.
Question: Ok, So how would you describe your style?
Richard Raw: I don’t have a style. When someone is able to
define you, they are able to confine you. So I am like the
water--- you hear me!!!!!!!!!!!
Question: What can we expect from your next album “Word To The Wize”?
Richard Raw: Word To The Wize is banging!!!!!!!!!! I have a
song on there dedicated to DR. York called (we can change).
This album is well rounded filled with hot production from
myself and others. People don’t know that I produce my own
Question: Will it be released independently by yourself or by
a major label?
Richard Raw: We in talks with several labels who are
interested in releasing it. I’m just trying to get the best
possible deal so there is stuff of the table. I also am 20
records into my double LP. I just recorded 5 songs for my
revolutionary album as well. Let me tell you something,,,,,,
RICH RAW will be at the status of like 50 cent or Jay Z don’t
trust me just watch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Question: Who did you guys grow up listening to and who do you
listen to now (musically, any genre)
Richard Raw: I grew up on Big Daddy Kane, Rakim, LL, you know
the greats. My three favorites of all time Tupac, Sizzla, and
John Coletrane. I listened to it all. Shit I like Advril
Lavine I would love to record with her.
Rasul Allah: I grew up listening to Kool G rap, Big Daddy
Kane, Public Enemy, Xclan, The Wu-tang clan, Boogiedown
Productions, Das-Efx, NWA, Boot Camp, Redman, Intelligent
Hoodlums, and many more......I currently listen to some new
age music and Underground Hip-Hop.
Ok, Rasul, are there any artist out there that you would like
with, dead or alive?
Dr. Malachi Z York & Rasul Allah
Rasul Allah: I would’ve loved to work with Big Pun (RIP),
because lyrically he was one of the best to ever touch the mic.
Right now I’d love to work with Nas, any one from the Wu,
Shabazz the Disciple, Tragedy Khadafi, Killah Priest, Immortal
Technique, Dead Prez, Chino xl, and Krs .
Question: Do any of you go into the studio with pre-written
rhymes, lyrics, and themes or do hear the beat first and write
there and then?
Rasul Allah: It really depends on the situation
Richard Raw: There is never a set formula. I may freestyle,
write in my head or on paper. Depends on my mood.
Question: So what is next on the menu for LCOB
as in albums, tours etc?
Rasul Allah: Right now were concentrating on the Appendices.
Richard Raw: We are going over this year. I can’t wait!!!!
Question: Rasul, What is your take on hip-hop’s current state
and that of Philly?
Rasul Allah: The current state if hip hop is destroyed, the
only way for the
culture to redeem itself is for major labels to sign
Hip-Hop artists like us, JMT, Sunz Of Man, Immortal technique,
etc, In order to put hip hop back in order. My personal
opinion on the Philly hip-hop scene is that it’s the wackest
of all time and full of haters.
Question: What advice would you give to a young emcee or
wants to have a music career?
Rasul Allah: Do everything for yourself and don’t just try to
run and get a record deal because you won’t get one.
Question: Most of your fans are also based across the globe, I
speak for Europe, are there any plans of the group coming over
in the near future?
Rasul Allah: Yeah we definitely acknowledge the love and
support and want to return the support when we do go out to tour in
Europe. We love Europe.
Question: What book(s) would you recommend to any one seeking
right knowledge or light to read?
Rasul Allah: it depends on what school of thought you come
from, I can’t really tell you one particular book to get
enlightened from but what I will say is "seek and you shall
Question: Ok just a quick word association on time, I am going
to say a group/name and you would say the first word that pops
in your head, for examples if I Say “Dead Prez”, you may say
“Revolution” okay? Here we go; there are only 6 of them for
you Richard, and 4 for Rasul...
Question: The Police?
Richard Raw: Corrupt!
Richard Raw: GODZ!
Questions: Wu-Tang Clan?
Richard Raw: Classic!
Question: President Bush?
Richard Raw: What?
Question: Death Penalty – For or against?”
Richard Raw: FUCK!
Question: Malachi Z. York?
Richard Raw: Reformer!!!!!!!!!
Question: Thanks, Rasul.... Killah Priest?
Rasul Allah: Biblical Narrator
Rasul Allah: Culture
Rasul Allah: Circle and Square
Rasul Allah: Enslavement
Priest & LCOB
Question: Thanks very much for that, anything else you might
want to add that we missed? Or any final words for the people
who are reading this, Shout outs etc?
Richard Raw: Yeah peace to my LCOB crew. My headlinerz crew
MIKE J MUSIC, SUGE, DJ VORTEX, BIG M, peace to REVOLUTION
HIPHOP. This is just beginning!!! OOOOOOO shit go cop my new
mixtape if you don’t have it already... WWW.HEADLINERZENT.COM.
tHANX TO WU-INTERNATIONAL FOR YOUR TIME AND TO THE FANS TOOO
Rasul Allah: I wanna thank Wu-International for giving me the
time to speak my mind, I want give a shout out to the whole
LCOB squadron, Revolution Hip-Hop, Killah priest , Sunz of
man, Killarmy, The whole Wu-tang, Black Market Militia , The
Maccabees, Jedi mind Tricks, Babygrande , Seventh Cathedral,
DGK, Stevie Williams, Stretch the Mad Scientist, Wazulu ,
Allen Sands, and my grandmother, and I also wanna shout out my
peoples in Portland, NYC, LA, Florida, Europe, and all over
the globe , Everyone that supports LCOB. Peace....
Dark 7 Invader: Thanks
very much... Peace
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